Liveryman element trimmers...

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metalmare

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Hi all,

I've seen a few old posts on here saying that the element clippers will cope with a low trace / bib and belly / chaser clip, etc, so I've gone ahead and ordered some - they're a damn sight cheaper than the harmony I was recommended on here and I'm trying to save some pennies just now.

I've only got one, not too hairy, clean welsh pony to do.

My question is, I've seen 3mm guards referred to on every post, to prevent the horse being scalped. Are these the same as the 'combs' that come in the box, or do I need to order something separate?

My parcel hasn't arrived yet so I don't know what's what and I'm a clipper virgin :-)
 
They are good trimmers, I use them on my minis and they will do a whole mini on one charge if I take off the bulk of the coat with proper clippers first. Be sure to give them a full charge before you use them, practice where the result won't be seen e.g. on their tummy. Without the guards they will clip very close thought to be honest I've not found the guards terribly successful on a full coat and they are not the right clippers for doing so. For heads and heels etc they are great and for getting into awkward places, just be careful not to nick the skin.
 
Okay, thank you.

I've got access to mains on the yard, so I think it might be easier to use them plugged in if the lead is long enough and the pony is well behaved.
 
Would the wahl moser artiko, which are a bit dearer, do anything that these wouldn't? I have the possibility to purchase some at a reasonable price... but unless there's a striking difference I wont bother as the others are now in the post and I'm trying to save, not spend :-)
 
Are you sure of what you have bought? they are only small about 8" long to fit in your hand, the blades are tiny and about 2" wide, cordless, only the base station has electric, like a telephone.


The Moser ones look similar except they are not cordless, neither are designed as full coat clippers that are of a much higher output.
 
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I don't use the guards on mine and although they cut close, not found the final result too 'scalped'.

These two were clipped with Liveryman Elements with no guard, just a couple of days before this photo was taken:

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It says in the ad 'mains and rechargable trimmer' and there is a picture of it both with a lead plugged in the back but also with a base, as you describe.

But no, I'm not entirely sure of what it will be like until it arrives. Definitely small and hand held, but so many posts on the internet said people use it for light clips...

Hmmm.
 
I think it depends what your use to tbh, I clipped one yeserday with proper heavy duty clippers and it was quick and fab, used a harmony to clip the face and I think they are useless things. How people can clip with them I don't know. The element is even smaller and would take all day just to clip anything, ok for tidying up though
 
thatsmygirl said:
The element is even smaller and would take all day just to clip anything, ok for tidying up though
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Takes me an hour to do a blanket or chaser on a full size horse or all bar legs/half head on a 14hh pony - so definitely not all day.

I agree that normal clippers are faster, but for use on a horse that came to me needing IV sedation for clipping, the Liveryman Elements have turned out to be invaluable! All mine have fairly fine coats though, so I suspect they would struggle more on thicker coats!
 
You can connect them straight to the mains, I have large clippers and my element, I love the Element nothing I cant do with them. You can alsoreplace the blades on them for £20 not bad.
 
Brill, thanks for the info guys.

He has little coat at the moment and relatively fine for a native.

As I only want to do a small clip, probably bib and belly and I have access to the mains I think I will be okay.

As someone else said, I think it depends what you're used to. I've never clipped before, so I think I'll be quite pleased simply with the novelty of being able to remove some hair!

And I can make time as there is only one pony to be done... it can be done over two days for that matter.

Fingers crossed... I'll have to take a photo of the results, if I don't make him look too absurd!
 
wonkey_donkey said:
Mine always seem to snag when i do anything more than a bit of a trim and the blades are fairly new ??
So I'm a bit disappointed with mine TBH :-(
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Have you checked that there is no hair wedged under the blade?

Excellent advice from Ashf (Stencilbum) given on another thread about how to remove wedged hair from the Liveryman Elements blades:

"Take the blades off the clipper by snapping them downwards off the catch, then get a fine flatblade screwdriver (jewellers) or similar, and from the back of the blades carefully prise them apart with it against the spring tension. You will find this space full of clippings.

Like a pair of scissors, if the screw holding them together is slack, then the blades won't contact each other properly and as a result not have a shearing effect against each other. This also happens with big mains clippers but they have a screw to tension them and brute force can hold them together. Self tensioning blades use a spring and these can be overcome by sheer quantity of clippings.

Clean them up once you have them apart and re oil at least every 5 minutes when in use. This will make a huge difference to them.

... I just re read this and the 'prise them apart' looks a bit ambiguous (it was late). Prise them just wide enough against the spring tension to get in between the blades with a small brush or a can of wd40 to clear the hair - don't dismantle the blade assembly as re-setting the springs can be a bit of a fiddle "
 
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