loaning- give me strength!

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diggerbez

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as some of you might know my lovely little TB is on loan- after a couple of very disastrous attempts to send him out on loan i managed to find someone to loan him to stay on my current yard. they started loaning him in June, seemed to really like him- have rung tonight to say they don't want him anymore :( apparantly its because the girl now wants her own horse and they'll have to save up for one...fair enough. Can't help but feel that the timing is a bit strange though- amazing that this has occured to them at the start of winter when its dark and not in mind- july...or is that just me being cynical and stroppy ;)
so now have the joy of trying to find a loaner in the winter. blooming marvellous. :mad:
 
thanks folks... i realise that this is the danger in having a horse on loan but i just couldn't sell him, i tried at the start of this year and it turned me into an emotional wreck :(
i just get peed off that people think its ok to just drop you in the s**t without any warning... :(
 
I feel your pain...
One of my horses was out on loan which had to end rather abruptly last Saturday... the girl who had him out of the blue demanded that I pay her the princely sum of £50 a week, just to cover his feed and bedding... Why!
Obviously I said no, to which she called me a stingy witch and so we went to collect the horse at the weekend.
Little brat.
Now sorry, I had already posted about this but I'm obviously still an embittered old fool. I'm sure there must be some decent loaners out there, but I'd like to know where to find them!
 
Loaning horses out can be such a nightmare.
I've done it twice and I swear I'll never do it again.
I had to perfectly good horses go out on loan to two neighbours with their own land and horse paddocks, about 15 mins away from my yard.

No warning, I get a call to collect one as he wouldn't hack out.....they'd had him on loan at my yard initially and had no problems, the wife was a weak nervous rider and caused the problem so I got back a horse with serious napping problems.
The second I got a call a few months later, she even admitted she'd had no time to ride her as was doing her house up and my perfectly good horse had been left in her paddock for 2 months untouched and was verging on wild. She was the kind of horse who needed regular work to keep sane. Again, no warning, no call to say I've not the time, just come and get her, and again previously on loan at my yard with absolutely no problems.

I decided from that moment on, I'd never let mine out of my sight again.

Too much of a coincidence it coming into winter, its really not easy to find a loaner at this time of year - so good luck!!
 
this is the exact reason that i won't let him go out on loan- at least with him staying on the same yard its not too disruptive when people leave me in the lurch like this- last time he went out on loan i'd givien my stable up and its only because my YM is so lovely that i managed to get it back...

i just get annoyed that they've hammered him over the summer- literally ridden every day, loads of hacking and jumping and having fun and now its winter and they might have to muck out and they just bail... with literally no notice whatsoever... i think next time i might insist on a contract and 1 month's notice- or do you think that wouldn't work?
 
diggerbez said:
this is the exact reason that i won't let him go out on loan- at least with him staying on the same yard its not too disruptive when people leave me in the lurch like this- last time he went out on loan i'd givien my stable up and its only because my YM is so lovely that i managed to get it back...

i just get annoyed that they've hammered him over the summer- literally ridden every day, loads of hacking and jumping and having fun and now its winter and they might have to muck out and they just bail... with literally no notice whatsoever... i think next time i might insist on a contract and 1 month's notice- or do you think that wouldn't work?
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It's a real shame but no I don't think a contract or notice would work, you could ahve it in place but :( I think if someone is going to stitch you up at the last minute they are not going to be worried about a contract/notice. They probably know it would cost the owner money to chase it through smnall claims.

One option would be to have a deposit upon collection of the loan horse (say £200) which would cover any travel/emergency livery should the situation arise that notice wasn't adhered to. Have that in the contract.

If I was to loan a horse and this was a stipulation, I wouldn't hesitate to pay a deposit like that.

What a horrible situation :(
 
I would definitely get a contract in place.

as it is a full loan could you ask the YO to get a month's deposit from the loaner as they would with a new livery?

that should stop them just dumping him on you with no notice.

sorry to hear it anyway, i was really worried about putting Pilfer on loan but was extremely lucky that a girl who rode him previously Facebook stalked me and asked if she could buy/loan him.
she treats him like a king and was absolutely fine about my very long-winded contract that has amongst other things a 2 month notice period if they don't want to loan anymore.

could you try loaning him through the RC or similar so the people are 'known'?
 
I'm a part loaner (the dreaded sharer!!!!) and I'd like to think of myself as one of the good ones...
I've shared with the same woman for 8 years now, having shared current horse for 5 years :) I go down in rain, sun, ice, snow, wind etc, try and ride every day do all the jobs, pay for what I can (when I can get to vet/farrier/feed shop quick enough!! ;)) and have still been there every day even when Kellys been on box rest and unrideable for the last 6 months. Its not about the riding for me, I love every part of it. In return, her owner lets me carry on with the arrangement whilst I am at uni, I am able to ride when I come home and over summer, I help out with her other horse too.
There are good loaners/sharers out there, just keep your faith!! :)
K x
 
diggerbez said:
as some of you might know my lovely little TB is on loan- after a couple of very disastrous attempts to send him out on loan i managed to find someone to loan him to stay on my current yard. they started loaning him in June, seemed to really like him- have rung tonight to say they don't want him anymore :( apparantly its because the girl now wants her own horse and they'll have to save up for one...fair enough. Can't help but feel that the timing is a bit strange though- amazing that this has occured to them at the start of winter when its dark and not in mind- july...or is that just me being cynical and stroppy ;)
so now have the joy of trying to find a loaner in the winter. blooming marvellous. :mad:
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Its a shame more parents don't get their kids to do as mine did and refuse to let me have my own horse until I'd had one on loan through the winter first! The winter as you know can be harsh on new owners and I think its good that I had the chance to see what it was like first before taking the plunge. Its not for everyone thats for sure. I hope you find someone soon.
 
I have a horse on full loan and would never dream of doing anything like the things mentioned above, it is a shame that people are so irresponsiable and dont respect their position. Gives the good loaners out there a bad name!

If you find yourself in a position to have to full loan, there is hope, some people would be so grateful to have a horse to treat as their own! you just may have to wait a while to find them!
 
If you look on the BHS website they have a sample loan agreement which you can obviously change to suit you, also they provide advise ;)
 
Oh ye forgot to say... also I would be slightly concerned if I was the childs parent that she will do the same thing with her own horse when the winter comes round! :confused:
 
thanks for the sympathy folks :) and you nice loaners...fancy moving to lancashire? :rolleyes:;)
i think part of the problem is that i just seem to attract wierd people with no social conscience! (does anyone else remember the woman with the made-up evil twin who took him on loan once?:eek:) i don't know why, my yard is lovely, i try to vet people as best i can and my horse is pretty sweet, if not a bob the plod...
i had thought about the riding club, but don't really know anybody as not done RC for a few years now, but def worth thinking about, thanks mt! :)
 
Caz89 said:
Oh ye forgot to say... also I would be slightly concerned if I was the childs parent that she will do the same thing with her own horse when the winter comes round! :confused:
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hopefully she will and then they'll know what it feels like :rolleyes:
sorry...being awful now aren't i! its people like this who give teenagers a bad name- a week ago she had how much she loved Rocky (the horse) all over her facebook- and now she doesn't want him anymore! :confused:
 
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