lockerbie bomber to be released

Sea_View, I'm so sorry to hear that you were so directly affected. I agree that life should mean life and he should not have been released today. I am certainly horrified to see images of him landing in Tripoli to crowds, cheers and bloody saltires being flown.
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My thoughts are most definitely with the family and friends of the victims of the Lockerbie Disaster, not his.
 
Well I don't agree with releasing him, but also think he may well have been a scape goat.

However all that aside its actually cheaper to release him. If he needed hospital care that means his own guard and £££ to us. So cheaper to release him and now he is someone else's problem

On this basis, yes release him

I actually think the government is going through the prisons and chucking out the ill to save costs.
 
There are one or two positive aspects to his release, all political. We have prevented him from becoming a martyr; we have distanced ourselves from the American standpoint; we have saved British taxpayers' money and politically, we are seen by the Libyans as having done the right thing. I am not sure that makes it right, but in the light of all the publicity surrounding this issue, I don't suppose the government had any alternative.
 
I've got lots of really mixed feelings about this. I think he wa a scape goat of sorts, but not innocent, just took the fall for lots of other folk involved as well. As such, I don't think the compassionate ground thing holds water for me.

I'm always thinking about possible conspiracy theories - one of which is that he was involved and that the British and Libyan gov'ts planned that e would spend a minimum time in prison and would go home -- just spend some time as a token. He's probably going home to a big fat mansion and lots of kudos (and prob doesn't really have cancer).

Another theory - that yep, guilty as hell and now that he does have cancer, he's got nothing left to lose and will now become a suicide bomber, martyr city.

Crap theories, I know ...

As for the saltire thing - I don't like it, but devil's advocate - maybe it's a cultural misunderstanding rather than a slap in the face?
 
Sooty, I agree that there are a few positive aspects to his release, but I'm not really sure that we have prevented him becoming a martyr. He's going to die in the face of more publicity that would have been the case if he had stayed in jail, which I think is a real shame.
 
Yes, it is a shame his return to Libya was as a hero. That says a lot about how little Libyan politics have changed, but with the same leader for 40 years, I suppose that is inevitable.
 
My dad is a complete documentary addict and there was huge doubt into his guilt basically the following.

Diplomats were warned by government officials (American)not to go on the Lockerbie flight the night before and some were actually pulled off completely.
The timers on the bombs were not the style the Libians were using at that time.
There was a break in at Heathrow airport and it is thought by some that the bomb was added to the flights luggage there which would make him innocent.
The timer did not have enough range from where he boarded the flight to where it detonated over Scotland it was three hours too long.
There was speculation in this documantary that there was a couple of FBI agents on that flight who were wanted rid of by American elite.
The Americans also completely took over and guarded the wreckage from UK officals and were looking for a particular piece of luggage long after all parts of the bomb were found. Also submitting a piece of paper that was a forgery into evidence.

This is all we can remember about the documentary but it threw his conviction completely into doubt. Makes you wonder if the Scottish powers have decided not to be lap dogs anymore. Please don't shoot the messenger lol
 
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Like you I'm not convinced this man is quilty (I've read several interviews with family members of some of the victims who also doubt his quilt.)
Libya has dark past & he was a Libyan agent so he may have been quilty of other things but I'm not sure about this one.
I've been to Libya & would be interested in how this case is being presented to the people & what they really think about this situation.
Sadly I don't think we'll ever know the truth about what actually happened.
 
QR.. not read ost jsut seen title.

Nothing actually says that this man was guilty of the Lockerbie Bombings. Infact.. Id go as far to say he probabaly wasnt.

Libya had to give up someone for it.. and they went 'ok have him' Nothing says the bomber didnt die on the plane.

As far as i understood it he was being relesed he was being moved to a prison in Libya to be near his family as his terminal illness progressed.


Lou x
 
Sadly that is all it comes down to these days.... I found it absolutely terrifying when one of the American presidents (can't remember which one it was) said that if the worlds oil reserves drop to the point where America struggles they will respect NO countries boundary in the persuit of oil.!!!!

Tell me where the difference is just because they are western IMO a bully is still a bully..
 
Purely as a matter of interest can a :nyone tell me whether the lockerbie incident took place before or after the American f111, BASESED AT LAKENHEATH bombed tripoli ,without informing the British government of their intention.Oh ,and acidently hit the french embassy(no connection with the fact that the french refused the F111,s clearance across French airspace)
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I lost my friend and her whole family in the Lockerbie Bombing the crater it left wiped out her house - IMO this man deserves no compassion he should rot and suffer.

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Absolutely! 100% agree.
 
Some of the loudest voices supporting his release on the grounds that he was a scapegoat for other parties the US didn't want revealed for political reasons..... are the families of victims!

The evidence has been revealed to be badly tainted and the US kept lots of things from the trial..and paid a witness $2 mil to testify..yet now the evidence shows his testimony WAS BS!
Starting to understand why the verdict might be considered unsafe?

And remeber too, those who are talking about the alleged offender as if he was a "fanatic"... if you believe what is ALLEDGED..he was no fanatic but an intelligence officer following orders.. which of course is OK if you are on the "right" side... Otherwise "I was just following orders" gets you hung...

It's a damn shame he had to drop his appeal to go home, because the appeal might have revealed some very interesting information! ...perhaps thats part of the reason for his release?
 
I agree with everything you've said gekko.
He has given an interview since he's been back in Libya where he continues to state that he is innocent, if he was the fanatic people seem to think he is then surely he would be gloating about being freed.
If he hates us & our values so much that he'd be willing to murder 100s of people he would saying that he's proud of what he did & that he wan't released through compassion but weakness. After all he's a dying man who's got nothing to loose by rubbing our noses in it.
Instead he expresses sympathy for the victims' families & states that he is an innocent man.
I believe him.
 
Interestingly, there is now doubt being cast on his medical condition. Apparently it was only one doctor (unnamed) who said he had only three months to live. The plot thickens... As they always do in these cases! One thing is for sure; we live our lives like the proles in Big Brother, and never know what is actually going on.
 
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that is disgusting the amount of people he murder and he has to be released

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Completely agree, i think its disgusting they let him go, all those people he murdered, he does not deserve compassion, all those lives taken and the lives affected, simply disgusting
 
This world is far from perfect, but what a nsty place it would be if compassion was reserved only for the "deserving".
 
I too did not agree with the decision to release him completely but at the same time I can respect the reasons why. If the man is as ill as they say he is then prison does not have the facilities to handle the terminally ill, they are not hospitals. For this reason among others such as compassion that Scots law allows for release on compassionate grounds. The law has to be applied fairly without discrimination and in this case it has. It would be a mockery of all our society stands for if we did not respect the laws in place. Anyway, since when did life mean life anywhere in the UK, just take a look at the paltry sentence Baby Ps killer got!

Anyway we would have had to pay for him out of our own hard earned taxes if he stayed and that would have stuck in my throat more than anything!
 
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