Long haired GSDs anyone?

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I am craving a long haired GSD and have been broody for one for years now, anyone here got one they want to post pics of and can anyone reccommend any breeders? In fact, if you know any breeders I should avoid, I'd appreciate a PM.

First priority is health (hip and elbow scored parents), second is they must be English type (i.e. chunkier type, not with a VERY sloping back and not american style) and third is perhaps going to be construed as "colourist" but I just want a nice black and tan or sable, I'm not a fan of blacks, whites, blues, livers etc, (thats not meant to be offensive, hope noone minds!).

I'd like some good working bloodlines, I'd love to get into obedience and maybe even Schutzhund if I have the time but first and foremost, a family pet. Not asking for much am I?!

The reason I am posting here is because I've found GSD forums too biased towards bloodlines, the showring and "angulation", I just a want a good all rounder.

Look forward to seeing lovely piccies!!
 
Most respectable breeders (ie ones who do health checks, do well at show/work/obedience) will have litters with longcoats anyway.
Didn't know people bred specifically for longcoats before, but some of the dogs on that site are lovely.

In my experience, longcoats are always beautifully constructed and with great character.

Keep us all updated
 
OMG, can't believe Kazeti were the first recommendation, I have been browsing their site and at the moment, I think they would be my first choice, I was hoping someone else would mention them so that is a very good start!!
 
Very impressed with that website. As someone who remembers when longcoats in a litter were almost given away as it was considered such a serious fault, I have found it quite hard to get used to the demand for them nowadays, but having said that I love them. My bitches only produced the occasional l/c and they were without exception the best construction in the litter, and everyone wanted them. When we were waiting for our latest pup to be born I would have been quite happy if she had been a long coat, but they were all normal coats. You obviously know what to look for re temperament, hip scores etc. The only thing I would say is that you said you wanted the English type but all the dogs at Kazeti seem to be German bred, which is the type I prefer, and I think their pictures prove that correctly bred dogs of German lines are the true Shepherd type. Good luck with your puppy hunting, keep us updated.
 
Thanks for the reply, nice to have an experts opinion! I think I might have had preconeived ideas about the german type which was wrong, it's only because my boy is english type and I like his shape but he has a real mismatch of breeding, only 1 hip score in five genrations and not a single dog of any notability. This doesn't make him a poor exmaple of the breed, (i think he's gorgeous and would have made a cracking stud dog if it weren't for the above factors!) but it does mean that I am very cautious about getting a dog with some provedance. He could develop hip dysplasia at any moment (he's 8 1/2)and I am always watching him to see if he is suffering any weakness, simply because I don't know if there is any hitsory of it in his family. I do know that a breeder that is prevalent in his pedigree bred from a dog with a score of 49..... so sad
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... hmmm, getting carried away now!

Posing in the garden, not meant to be serious, I have no idea how to stack!!!
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Imo your lad isn't typical English type, they tend to be longer in the body and have far more hind angulations. I would call him a good middle of the road type, which is what a lot of people are aiming for. Disgusting that a breeder should use a dog with a score of 49, but sadly not unique. It has to be said though that dogs with good hips on both sides of their breeding can produce bad hips. I sadly have a prime example, bred by myself from low scoring parents, (Mum 12, dad 5) yet she has a score of 38. There is not a score over 14 in her pedigree going back several generations
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She is 8 and is perfectly sound, but obviously I have not bred from her. I would not worry too much about your lad, they do not just "develop" HD, it is more a case of bad hips causing arthritis as they get older. In fact a lot of people confuse HD in older GSDs with a horrible condition called CDRM (think its known as DM nowadays), which is when dogs lose the use of their hind legs due to a degenerative condition similar to MS in humans.
Anyway, sorry to waffle on, once I get started on GSDs you can't stop me. Good luck with the puppy hunt, let me know if I can be of any help, though I am not really familiar with the modern English lines.
 
Ive just checked the link to Kazeti GSD and it looks really good with stunning dogs.

Makes one broody
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I like the look of your boy. I have always wanted a long coated GSD but always end up with a short coated one. Im not complaining though
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Ooooh, lovin deefer!!!! What is his breeding? Have you bred from him? Re your morgan post on PG, that was a lovely filly you bred, even though she's a cross she is the spit of a colt we had as a yearling, morgans have strong genes!!

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And with enormous ears, don't know where they came from!!

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At what age can you tell if they are long/short haired? Also is it possible to have a medium length?

Some of the pups in my litter seem fluffier than the others but not as fluffy as pups I've seen in pics. They are 6 weeks today.
 
Awww what a gorgeous dog. Deefer is not KC reg and is of unknown parentage, he was homebred (I saw both parents and an Aunt but thats as far as it went!) Couldnt ask for a better dog though. I wouldn't breed from him for that reason, and his hind legs are a bit cowhocked. no HD though, phew.

TayloredEquestrian, its more than possible to get a medium haired dog, I had one myself.
Does this help...
long...
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medium...
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Short...
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I think you can tell pretty much after a couple of weeks, medium would be harder though!!! Can we see pics??????
Warning....
***Artysteph is GSD mad ******
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Re telling whether you have a long coat...sometimes is can be obvious, sometimes not. We had to wait until about 10 weeks to spot it in a female we had bought to show. Oopsies.
But like all long coats, she was perfect in every other aspect, sod's law.

And regarding long-medium-short, some short coated dogs (according to the standard) can have 'softer' coats (and as these photos show, you can go to the other extreme with a very short, tight coat) but are still considered 'correct', but when you stray into fluffy ear territory and fringing on the elbows then that would be what I would call a long coat.

True long coats usually don't have an undercoat, which is why they are deemed 'incorrect' in the standard.

But hey, they are still sheps, love 'em all.
 
I will stick my neck out and say I don't think there are any real long coats amongst your pups TE, although it is really hard to tell with the full coats (i.e. fringing on ears, legs etc.). If it is any help I could come over next wednesday and see them (though am still not going to say I can tell for def about coats). Let me know if you would like me to come and I will pm you for directions etc.
 
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