breezing
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My mare has knocked the top off some proud flesh on the front of her fetlock ,I would like to try manuka honey but dont know what type or how to apply ,any suggestions please ?
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itsonlyme
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The higher the activity rating, the better. Needs to be at least 10, but preferably more like 30. Try ebay 
Hope it heals up ok for u.
Hope it heals up ok for u.RolyPolyPony
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Agree with the above comment! as for application .... i would have thought just pop it on sparingly (it isnt cheap so you dont want to go slapping a load on but enough to cover the flesh!) hope it heals up ok
lazybee
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Hello, just a note on honey, all honey is hygroscopic as it's an inverted sugar. Which means it attracts moisture. That's why it's used on wounds it removes moisture without allowing the wound to dry out. All honey has antibacterial properties, put there by the bees so they can store it in the combs without it spoiling. These two properties are exploited when used as a wound dressing. No particular type of honey has an advantage over another. Manuka, clover, oil seed rape makes no difference. Don't believe the hype with Manuka it's just marketing from New Zealand honey farmers promoting a honey that tastes horrible.
If you want to use honey though.You should wash it off with warm water daily and dry thoroughly, then reapply. Once the honey is saturated it's useless and has stopped attracting moisture. Or failing that use Sudocrem.
PS Trust me I'm a beekeeper
If you want to use honey though.You should wash it off with warm water daily and dry thoroughly, then reapply. Once the honey is saturated it's useless and has stopped attracting moisture. Or failing that use Sudocrem.
PS Trust me I'm a beekeeper
ofcourseyoucan
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you can also just put sugar straight on to damp proud flesh! much cheaper and does the job! but the best thing for proud flesh is demobian mixed with copper sulphate granules!
Birker2020
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_n...essings&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313
Why don't you try these instead? These wound dressings are being used in hospitals as silver had very good healing properties. They used silver wound dressings on my Dad's ulcerated leg, and eventually it healed. He'd had major problems with it for three years.
Very expensive I know but meant to be really good. Quite how many you would need I'm not sure.
Holland & Barrett are doing special offers on Manuka honey. Here is the link, but the beekeeper on a previous reply sounds like he knows his stuff so not sure if you want to pursue this or not?
http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pa...anuka honey"&gclid=CJaSj5jf3q4CFUEOfAodCCCeaA
Why don't you try these instead? These wound dressings are being used in hospitals as silver had very good healing properties. They used silver wound dressings on my Dad's ulcerated leg, and eventually it healed. He'd had major problems with it for three years.
Very expensive I know but meant to be really good. Quite how many you would need I'm not sure.
Holland & Barrett are doing special offers on Manuka honey. Here is the link, but the beekeeper on a previous reply sounds like he knows his stuff so not sure if you want to pursue this or not?
http://www.hollandandbarrett.com/pa...anuka honey"&gclid=CJaSj5jf3q4CFUEOfAodCCCeaA
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razzy1974
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The beekeeper is correct all honey has antibacterial activity, however studies have shown Manuka Honey has higher levels, this is measured in the 5+, 10+, 15+. The higher the UMF rating the higher the potency.
If the wound is closed then used the highest rating and smoother on top. If the wound is open use sterlised manuka honey http://www.comvita.co.uk/medihoney/medihoney-first-aid/antibacterial-wound-gel.html this is commonly used on open wounds to stop infections setting in and for healing, if possible cover with a bandage after.
Hope this helps.
If the wound is closed then used the highest rating and smoother on top. If the wound is open use sterlised manuka honey http://www.comvita.co.uk/medihoney/medihoney-first-aid/antibacterial-wound-gel.html this is commonly used on open wounds to stop infections setting in and for healing, if possible cover with a bandage after.
Hope this helps.
ponynotexpress
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The beekeeper is only partially correct, and there is quite a bit over misleading hype over manuka honey by some companies. I have come to suspect that a lot of manuka sold is no different to other types of honey. However the correct quality stuff is different and does contain extra special healing properties. Obviously the person has not really researched properly.
What is correct: All honey contains some antibacterial properties through a hydrogen peroxide activity. But that not only varies greatly between types of honey, but is also not stable, and by the time you the jar is on a shop shelf up to 100% of the hydrogen peroxide activity can have gone.
Some Manuka honey (not all) contains an extra, unique, non-peroxide antibacterial property that is not only stable but works against a much larger number of bacteria. This is well supported by published science.
Ironically it is British scientists who are leading the way in proving the wound healing benefits of medical grade manuka honey. Here is just one report about research from Cardiff University: http://www.walesonline.co.uk/cardiffonline/cardiff-news/2012/01/31/manuka-honey-91466-30235731/
Though as they stress for wounds a proper sterilised and medical grade honey should be used.
The Medihoney wound gel mentioned above is one example of a suitable product, though it is not pure honey. The pure manuka honey option would be this Comvita Manukacare, which is sterilised and even approved to say it helps fight against MRSA - http://www.newzealandhoneyshop.co.uk/manuka-honey/manukacare-18.html
There is no such thing as 30+ manuka honey, if it is being measured by the accepted methods. What can happen is that a company adds together both the hydrogen peroxide and non-peroxide levels to create a larger number. With jars of the honey you should look for the UMF mark on its label, as this only measures the unique extra non-peroxide property.
Somewhat useful (or concerning depending on how you view it) is this tips page - http://www.newzealandhoneyshop.co.uk/manuka-five-top-tips.html - though I know other brands of UMF Manuka exist than what they show.
My neighbour was recommended this sterilised honey by his vet for a wound on his dog, and worked well. And everything I have read since has confirmed its benefits.
Back to the original question - apply the honey direct onto the wound. Don't have to cover it but generally will need to to stop it being licked off, just use as non-absorbant a dressing or bandaging etc as possible to let the honey stay on the wound and work.
PS - Don't trust me - but once you do some research through credible sources then the facts emerge.
What is correct: All honey contains some antibacterial properties through a hydrogen peroxide activity. But that not only varies greatly between types of honey, but is also not stable, and by the time you the jar is on a shop shelf up to 100% of the hydrogen peroxide activity can have gone.
Some Manuka honey (not all) contains an extra, unique, non-peroxide antibacterial property that is not only stable but works against a much larger number of bacteria. This is well supported by published science.
Ironically it is British scientists who are leading the way in proving the wound healing benefits of medical grade manuka honey. Here is just one report about research from Cardiff University: http://www.walesonline.co.uk/cardiffonline/cardiff-news/2012/01/31/manuka-honey-91466-30235731/
Though as they stress for wounds a proper sterilised and medical grade honey should be used.
The Medihoney wound gel mentioned above is one example of a suitable product, though it is not pure honey. The pure manuka honey option would be this Comvita Manukacare, which is sterilised and even approved to say it helps fight against MRSA - http://www.newzealandhoneyshop.co.uk/manuka-honey/manukacare-18.html
There is no such thing as 30+ manuka honey, if it is being measured by the accepted methods. What can happen is that a company adds together both the hydrogen peroxide and non-peroxide levels to create a larger number. With jars of the honey you should look for the UMF mark on its label, as this only measures the unique extra non-peroxide property.
Somewhat useful (or concerning depending on how you view it) is this tips page - http://www.newzealandhoneyshop.co.uk/manuka-five-top-tips.html - though I know other brands of UMF Manuka exist than what they show.
My neighbour was recommended this sterilised honey by his vet for a wound on his dog, and worked well. And everything I have read since has confirmed its benefits.
Back to the original question - apply the honey direct onto the wound. Don't have to cover it but generally will need to to stop it being licked off, just use as non-absorbant a dressing or bandaging etc as possible to let the honey stay on the wound and work.
PS - Don't trust me - but once you do some research through credible sources then the facts emerge.