Mare lazy in season??

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I have a lovely conni mare, had her since she was 4 she now 15. Ever since Iv had her she has always been very flat and lazy come spring summer then goes back to being quite forward in the winter. She does have a few allergies in the summer. (she’s had ventipulim and even a nebuliser with steroids which makes absolutely no difference to her) I have battled this for years thinking it’s her allergies then to low-grade laminitis that nobody is picking up on.
Anyway my son now rides her and jumps her she has a cracking jump on her when she’s feeling well. Sometimes she can really jump and it’s powerful, other times she will jump but it just seems very flat low energy. So yesterday I rode her in the morning on a little hack and she felt amazing, my son had a lesson on her in the evening and she felt quite flat but she did have her grass glands up after she came in so we cut the lesson short and put it down to that.
My son went to a clear round tonight I left her in in the day off the grass with her Haylage. Her grass glands went down. Took her to the Clear round expecting her to be back on game and she was very flat. Some things I have noticed when she’s like this is she will often strike off in the wrong canter lead on the right rein and disunite in canter.
I did notice that I think she’s in season tonight as she was excessively weeing and winking (she’s never a moody mare very quiet calm mare) i’m actually thinking now after all these years of owning her that she actually has these issues when she’s in season. Could she be bloated? Do seasons cause bloat? ( she doesn’t look bloated) or have a bit of discomfort over her ovaries and just doesn’t want to use herself correctly to try and make it more comfortable for herself?
has anybody else ever experience this when the mare is in season? it’s kind of making sense to me a little bit because sometimes in the summer when I think she’s going to be lazy because of pollen she’s not. but maybe those days are just the part of her cycle where she’s not in season??
 

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She sounds sore - I would talk to your vet. I have no experience of using them but there are drugs that can help control seasons if it's causing her pain. Your hunch that the issues are caused by her being in season sounds like a sensible one so I would definitely raise it with your vet.
 

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Sounds like something to discuss with your vet
Trust me I have spoken to the vets and had numerous investigations. Just didn’t think of season being the issue. Vet already booked again! Just posted out of Curiosity if anyone els had similar symptoms with season issues.
that’s a great and I’m not knocking them but unless there’s an obvious cause they’re not really that interested. when everything keeps coming back as negative they switch off from the issue.
 

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unless there’s an obvious cause they’re not really that interested. when everything keeps coming back as negative they switch off from the issue.

I know what you mean, I had this too with a previous vet and it was really frustrating. I moved vets with my next horse and the new vets are much more curious and switched on. Is switching vets a possibility? If they really aren't very interested then perhaps suggest you try her on Regumate (or similar) and see if they will okay that. It's not cheap but if the issues settle down (over a long enough period) while she's on it, that would give you your answer. I think it's Regumate that a friend's mare is on.

Long term though, I think perhaps you need a more engaged vet.
 

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I knew a mare that used to get incredibly sore over her back around her ovaries whenever she was in season, the difference between her in season and out of season was night and day, you couldn't even brush over the area without risking injury.
 

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I know what you mean, I had this too with a previous vet and it was really frustrating. I moved vets with my next horse and the new vets are much more curious and switched on. Is switching vets a possibility? If they really aren't very interested then perhaps suggest you try her on Regumate (or similar) and see if they will okay that. It's not cheap but if the issues settle down (over a long enough period) while she's on it, that would give you your answer. I think it's Regumate that a friend's mare is on.

Long term though, I think perhaps you need a more engaged vet.
My friends got some of that stuff she tried it on her moody mare. She didn’t use that much and it wasn’t that long ago so she said I could try it on her.
I might give it a go fingers crossed.
i’ve used lots of different vets trying to get different opinions but they’re all pretty much the same. Because there’s no answers they don’t like to dig any deeper. I do get it in a way because it could be a whole list of things that I have ruled out a number of these things. I think they just think I’m a neurotic owner now 😆
 

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I knew a mare that used to get incredibly sore over her back around her ovaries whenever she was in season, the difference between her in season and out of season was night and day, you couldn't even brush over the area without risking injury.
My mare is fine to do anything with…. She doesn’t get the obvious signs of pain just know when I get on and she’s flat lazy and not using herself like she normally would.
don’t get any of these issues in the winter
 

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Yes, last year my mare was the same. However.. she has recently had a bone chip removed so I don’t know if that was related.

I wrote down when was in season (could tell by ridden symptoms) and it was always a month or so apart.

She would go amazing one week, next week not want to go forward. Like riding 2 different horses. Very clingy to other horses, very nappy. Just grumpy in general! If she’s the same this year once back in work I think I’ll try Regumate and speak to my vet.

She doesn’t have any other symptoms either, just her attitude to work massively.
 

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Yes, last year my mare was the same. However.. she has recently had a bone chip removed so I don’t know if that was related.

I wrote down when was in season (could tell by ridden symptoms) and it was always a month or so apart.

She would go amazing one week, next week not want to go forward. Like riding 2 different horses. Very clingy to other horses, very nappy. Just grumpy in general! If she’s the same this year once back in work I think I’ll try Regumate and speak to my vet.

She doesn’t have any other symptoms either, just her attitude to work massively.
Yes I’m convinced now the more I read that this is her hormonal thing. However she isn’t moody she’s still very sweet ( to humans, she can be horrible to other horses if they invade her space) 🤔
 

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Yes I’m convinced now the more I read that this is her hormonal thing. However she isn’t moody she’s still very sweet ( to humans, she can be horrible to other horses if they invade her space) 🤔

Sorry. I meant grumpy in general when it comes to working during her season. She doesn’t get moody with me on the ground, she’s always sweet and affectionate. She isn’t a squirty type either. Reminds me of me when it’s my time of the month, just don’t want to do anything. Lol.

I’d get the vet and see what they advise, could be worth trialing Regumate.
 
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