May I have a minor rant?

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Zak being horribly dog aggressive, it's taken us a good while to work out a routine that keeps other dogs safe. We walk to the nearby park, we ensure there are no dogs madly running round (or we go elsewhere) and he has a 50 feet line on. He is ball obsessed and ignores other dogs if retrieving balls.

Today, usual thing, playing happily with his ball when a beagle and a massive husky, both off lead, start bouncing towards us. I held him as this calms him plus obviously he can't go for them. I politely asked the beagle owner to recall, she did. Then the husky bounced over as did the beagle. I said 'It's a good job my dog has a ball. I really don't want him to put off your dog, could you please recall the husky?' because it was dancing round ignoring the owner and Zak was getting annoyed. The owner was very grumpy and said 'Thing is, we want to let our dogs off'. I don't want dogs on leads, I just want their dogs safe and Zak to be left alone. An aggressive dog going for Zak seemed to spark his aggression, I'd hate for him to do that to another dog :( The park is big enough to have several dogs bouncing round without impacting on others.

Anyway, I went home to get out of their way and swapped dogs, went straight back with the other two. The husky and beagle were leaving (so had a total of ten minutes walk and what part of you're not supposed to have sibes offlead did they not get?!)

Sorry, rant over, just sick of brainless owners who don't get that dogs on lead should not be approached and dogs need to be taught a solid recall and to not get in the face of strange dogs!
 
exactly the same position as me. I have a lab x collie called jed who is aggressive towards other dogs that approach him (his aggression started after he was attacked by 2 staffies).

Anyway, when we see a dog that he doesnt know we put him on the lead but some people still let their dog come up to jed and then jed goes for them. they are veryyyy quick to put the blame on us and say we have a dangerous dog! where as jed was on a lead and in control! some people are so oblivious to the fact that they are in the wrong!
 
I have two dogs that are never on a lead but as you say if you are approaching a dog on a lead then I recall mine who will walk to heel and ignore the dog on a lead. I always work on the theory that a dog is on a lead for a reason and therefore would probably not appreciate my dogs running over to say hello! I think dog owners should be forced to have lessons in dog care before they are allowed to own a one! Every time this happens it will make you and your poor dog more anxious and not able to enjoy his park time. Is there anywhere else you could go where you would be less likely to meet other dogs? It seems that a lot off people who have dogs think it is ok that their dog does not come back when called and they are not doing any harm when they run over to another dog when that dog is on a lead and under control, I really don't understand their thinking at all.
 
Oh don't get me started. I took mine to the beach, Buddy can be a bit aggressive to other dogs if they start on him. A friends dog pinned him when he was a pup and since then he has been funny with any other dog than Tyler.

Now we were on the beach and there were no other dogs around so I let Buddy off as he is good to recall and kept Tyler on his lead as he is not aggressive but he doesn't come back to me and has a tendancy to chase little things such as birds rabbits etc and at the beach he rather likes the seagulls that land fly on a bit then land again lol.

Anyway we were happily wandering down to the sea and this little Jack russel comes up from the other end of the beach! His owners were calling him and I could only just see them so can guarantee the dog couldn't hear them by this point.

Buddy came straight back to me and I held on to him and told the JRT to go away hoping it might have some sort of training under it's belt.

But no, Buddy was completely fine with this little dog until he decided to have a nip at Tyler.

Both my two barked at the dog and spun round and the JRT decided that perhaps he had bitten off more than he could chew and legged it.

But if your dog doesn't come back when distracted by anything why let it off.

At the yard Tyler is off the lead of sorts. He has a lungeline attached to him and I watch him like a hawk while he is there and I can dive on the line before he goes off after a bunny. This lungeline trailing makes him think that he is on a lead so he doesn't tend to bother. But out and about I keep him on his line or extender lead because although I 100% know he would never hurt another dog or a human he could end up getting hurt himself if he chased a rabbit across the road for example.

Buddy is off the lead at the yard as he is more interested in stealing brushes than going off after anything but off the yard or away from home he is on the lead full stop unless there are no dogs around at all. Down a track near me I can let him off because I can see in plenty of time if any other dogs are nearby and then I can get him back and on the lead immediately.

If he wasn't so good at recall though I would not have him off the lead, he wouldn't hurt a human 100% guarantee that, but if another dog went for him even though he would probably come off worse he would go back at them.

Any tips on how to stop this would be greatfully received lol!!
 
CT youve tried reasoning it dosnt work, I would try another approach and call out keep away my dog has Mange its highly contagious thats why he is on a lead. Im sure the speed they retrieve their dogs will astound you:D they will probabley say you have no right bringing your dog out in that condidion but Im sure you can live with that.:D
 
DINOS do some very good t-shirts, Freckles do 'give me space' vests. :)

Poor (nervous, lead-reactive but NOT aggressive) Ricoh had a Yorkshire terrier hanging off his neck yesterday, Dax stepped in and would have had the little **** if I hadn't stopped her. Luckily the owner didn't say a word as said terrier had streaked the full length of the footpath in order to try and nail my dogs and had to be extracted, snarling and writhing, by means of the owner's boot up its arse.

Annoys me no end though as if either of my dogs had done any damage to the aggressive dog they would inevitably be made out to be the attacking party, great big savage huskies vs. tiny Yorkie etc. :rolleyes:
 
Well my small staffie boy is terrified of large black dogs having been attacked by a black lab when he was a puppy. Permanantly damaged his right eye. I put him on the lead when we see loose large black dogs as he gets defensive. TBH I try to walk mine away from normal dog areas to,avoid the conversation and am lucky enough to be on a dog friendly yard where I can walk over our fields as well. I have got him to th stage where he will socialise with black labs now if I take my time but strange ones are treated as the devil incarnate!
 
Another one to join the rant, neither the dog or I enjoy random dogs bouncing up to us that are unknown. He gets offended and nippy/will go for if they are in his face and I hate being invaded by unknown dogs that jump up and don't seem to have any recall skills.....

I either walk the dog early/late or on country lanes where there are sensible responsible owners. He's on a lead as he has minimal recall skills and I love him too much to see anything happen to him or anyone else.

Sick of the local ratbag dog owners that have ill behaved dogs and no manners with it (plus they don't seem to pick up poo *more ranting*)
 
Rant Away :( mine are submissive, but it is a weekly occurrence for me, it shames me to say this but I heel mine behind me, and if another dog bothers them I will push them away with my foot - of course I then get total abuse :( however I am big enough, bolshy enough, and protective enough not to give too hoots and give as good as I get. I've lost count the amount of times I've heard " but he's never done that before " as said dog is trying to hang off the neck of one of my spangles. My other tact is to take my Cane Corso too, that usually terrifies people enough to stay away, unfortunately she is getting older now and is not up to long walks :( bless her - looking forward to getting a Rottie again :)
 
Thanks for the t shirts/posters links. I think I'll put the posters at the entrances to the park.

I have to say, I always make a point of going over to owners as the OH is playing ball, Brig follows and is totally disinterested in other dogs and I always point out which b/w is to be avoided but I also say he's fine as long as left alone. They can see how focused he is on the ball and ignores their dogs.
 
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Agreed, its just rude. Mines always off lead, but with other dogs, whether on or off lead he's not allowed to approach before I've spoken to owner, & even then its a quick sniff unless told to 'go play'. He's fine with anything, but being playful & large, if a smaller dog is either a pup/elderly but playful I'm always worried he'll squash it. Liking Dobiegirls mange line.
 
I'm also liking the mange, but if someone told me that, I'd want to see. I'm so nosy :) I'm very poor with confrontation. Rather than say to the woman today that Zak will honestly try to kill her dog, I just said I'll take him away and walked off. In six weeks, I've never seen her, hopefully I won't see her again or I'll be with the OH who is used to dealing with idiots. :D (or to be nice, someone in need of education :p)
 
I'm the one with two dogs, one of which has rubbish recall, that will hammer over to others and get in their faces and generally be pushy...so I put them on their leads when other dogs approach. It's not rocket science.

Although, apparently beyond the retriever owner who allows his dog to run up to my grumpy bitch so fast and hard that once it flipped over on it's back as it hit her and took her legs out from under her body. She took loud snarly exception to that and the other dogs owner didn't say a word and just carried on! I wish she'd tried to eat him instead of his soppy, untrained, daft dog, who got away unscathed, but only because I was quick thinking and got my bitch under control straight away as she was already on the lead.
 
Oooh oooh me!!!! :D

I have a rescue GSD who is petrified of people and other dogs (put across as aggression unfortunately) and we are currently doing work with her and have a behaviourist coming soon too. She has a solid recall - when there are no dogs about. So we go to a section of the woods near us, where you can see the whole path right up to the gate and if there is nobody about she goes offlead.

Otherwise, she has a full tape Flexi lead (not a cord one!) and is able to wander on that, but never let off if there's a chance of other dogs.

However....we've had a young Cocker Spaniel flying up to her - owner nowhere to be seen - she was trying her best to hide behind my boyfriends legs and snap at the Cocker at the same time - owner comes running up "sorry his recall is crap!" Then, please tell me WHY it's offlead on the top of one of the highest points on Rivington???? :confused::confused:

Group of women stood nattering on the road - one just didn't have hold of her dog, at all. Dog flies right across the road (luckily no cars and a quiet road!) and fortunately, my Goldie moved in front of the shepherd (quite amazing really) and growled at the dog, who turned tail and ran. I told the woman that she wanted to keep at least an eye, or even better, a hold of her dog or else it'd end up under a car or something!! I was SO angry. :mad:

The worst is - Roxy barking on the lead, hair up and the other owner goes "oh mine's okay don't worry!" well...she's not...!!?? :confused:

Some people do make me wonder :rolleyes:

ETA most people are very good when I explain she's a rescue dog - I've had some real rudeness though. One man said to me "I wouldn't go letting that near kids" - well kids have made her this way by throwing stones at her and hitting her, so logic says.....!!

K x
 
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Lol, I find with mine GSD x rottie that most people are only too happy to put their dogs on lead VERY quickly, even if he is just a big waggly ball off fun beneath his massive paws and breezeblock consistency knucklehead :D
 
Oh Stencilface, I used to have a gsd x rottie! Best dog in the world and far easier to live with than hyperactive adhd dog in my avatar. I do miss him.
 
Blackcob I have been in exactly that situation where a JRT ran up to my on the lead Dane and attacked her. Bit her back leg then jumped and was swinging off her face! I was livid!! It's owners actually laughed over it so I blew. Think my parting shot was along the lines of 'I'll give you to the count of five before I let her off and tell her 'rats', see how *********g funny it looks then!'

Probably not my most diplomatic moment but then I'm not known for my diplomacy!!
 
I hate to say this but we were attacked by a low-flying Bichon the other day and while I would normally say something harsh all I could do was laugh...had I had the grey fing with me instead of the black fing, who just looked....confused...it would not have been a laughing matter.
 
KellysHeroes said:
The worst is - Roxy barking on the lead, hair up and the other owner goes "oh mine's okay don't worry!" well...she's not...!!?? :confused:
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I hear this a LOT! O'h, he's fine, he just wants to play'. Yeah, mine just wants to kill yours. Capiche?!

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had I had the grey fing with me instead of the black fing, who just looked....confused...it would not have been a laughing matter
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I am terminally grateful when I've got the B boys with me in icky situations. There are so many untrained dogs flying round :mad:

*UPDATE*!

I saw the husky and beagle as I arrived at the park today, heart sank as the dogs were bouncing all over the whole park, but I relaxed (half of Zak's problem is probably me! :o) and the owners walked off very quickly! The old dude who runs the bowling green bar meandered over to talk to Zak and immediately won his love by treating him (with my permission). I'm on a mission to get this dog more sociable! :)
 
One of the women i work with was telling me the other day that her two dogs had run up to a bloke in the woods whose dog was on the lead. Dog on the lead went mental and the guy had a bit of a go at my work colleague, telling her to keep her dogs under control - she was very indignant about this and told him that the reason his dog was so mental towards other dogs was because he obviously didnt let it off the lead. Jeez, some people!!
 
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