Meat man will have some bargains at Llanybidder.

If it were a cattle sale no-one would think anything of it.

Good job I don't go anymore, or I'd be coming home with some foals this week I suspect. I stay away from markets, our local one is just the same, just different breeds.

I suspect that the answer to your question is "because they can"
 
Because some people just dont have any sense and intelligence, they continue to see a profit out of constantly breeding. Saying that, you say there are alot of mares in foal and yongstock, that sadly wont see a future.
 
I was told yesterday there is 400 horses in Ireland waiting to go to slaughter as they are over run
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I find it really sad that things like this end up at auction

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“Prince”. Chestnut Irish x cob Gelding, 10y/o, 14-1hh. Prince has been there and done it all. A totally genuine pony that has been used by both mother and daughter for the past 5 years as a RC/ PC pony. He has also hunted and hunter trialled with regular success. Proving to be excellent and safe at his fences, has no vices. Good to do in all ways, easy to catch and has the most willing temperament ever. Genuine sad sale as past owners moved on to a 15-2hh. A real fun pony that is fully recommended.

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The knacker man only buys aged horsese.g 18+!!! All sound horses incuding foals usually go to good homes.... And most of the horses tomorrow will have high reserves on them therefor knacker men and dealers wont bother because they like to pay as little as possible for horses hence why they can only get their hands on old old horses.
 
Yes it is, but on the other hand he may just land on his feet and find a decent home, that sort often do. Maybe his owners just want a quick sale.
 
May i add also add that in llanybydder everybody knows everybody including my family and other genuin buyers. We all know who is bidding and who is selling what. 99.9% of the horses go to real good homes and i have contributed to that after buying 3 of my past horses there who have all turned out fab. dealers are only interested into cheap old horses and yerling which they halter break and sell on.
 
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Just means that he is entering one but couldn't decide which one at the time he did the entry. I've made entries exactly the same there.
 
Is anyone going - I want lot 448?! What do you reckon she'd go for - (roughly) if she is as described

"448. “Highwood Estella”. Sire-“Celtic Mutineer” Dam-“Lockinge Ellen”.

Black registered Shetland Mare, 16y/o. ridden lead rein pony, very quiet, loves children. Very sweet pony in every way. Been shown in hand and under saddle. No sweetitch.

Or does the "loves children" bit mean that she can't eat a whole one??

I've been looking all over Sussex for one just like her......
 
It does make sad reading but some people (like me) are really lucky and buy gems like he sounds from there.
I had my 15hh Section D from there and whilst it was a pretty desperate experience for him I ended up with a fantastic horse. I could never have found him privately- i think the Gods were shining on us both that day! There are sometimes genuine buyers there and on the day I bought mine the vast majority didn't make their reserves and went home again. I marked them all in the catalogue and was staggered at how many didn't sell. Sellers there did seem to want a good and fair price for their horses and weren't prepared to sell for pennies (in the main).
 
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Is anyone going - I want lot 448?! What do you reckon she'd go for - (roughly) if she is as described

"448. “Highwood Estella”. Sire-“Celtic Mutineer” Dam-“Lockinge Ellen”.

Black registered Shetland Mare, 16y/o. ridden lead rein pony, very quiet, loves children. Very sweet pony in every way. Been shown in hand and under saddle. No sweetitch.

Or does the "loves children" bit mean that she can't eat a whole one??

I've been looking all over Sussex for one just like her......

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Sadly I've seen numerous described like her barely make £50. I saw a lead rein pony, much the same description make about that much at Bont Fair. (Pontrhydfendigaid) (but it was last year I think)
 
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I was told yesterday there is 400 horses in Ireland waiting to go to slaughter as they are over run
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problems actually a lot worse than that here...the main horse factory in the curragh had a ten week waiting list last i heard and people turned away have been abandoning horses outside the factory at ight and even during the lunch hour
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the overall sales of horses has plummeted over here,in cavan after the sales apparently some unsold horses were simply abandoned...
on the other hand if you are looking through the marts you can easily come by nice youngstock for very little if you now what your looking for... my uncle picked up a 2 year conemaraX filly and a 3 year old ISH skewbald for less than 200 euro each lately...aparently 100 t0 400 was the going rate or youngstock that day and the meat men were picking up bargins:(
 
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The knacker man only buys aged horsese.g 18+!!! All sound horses incuding foals usually go to good homes.... And most of the horses tomorrow will have high reserves on them therefor knacker men and dealers wont bother because they like to pay as little as possible for horses hence why they can only get their hands on old old horses.

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and what planet is it that you live on??
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i live near a field that, believe me, will have an influx of welsh ponies from sales just like these .....

it was emptied on monday of 30 mares,foals and youngstock ready for todays "business"....
 
Be interesting to know what these make..

6. “Ventures Rockafella”. Smart dark bay Gelding, 11y/o, 16-3hh. Has hunted, been driven, great to catch and clip etc. Ridden on roads, he’s an easy ride, uncomplicated.

25. Bay Gelding, 17hh, 8y/o. Has been hunted, well mannered, very good jumper.

91. Bay Gelding, 16-2hh, 9y/o. Hunted for four seasons, has show jumped and cross countried. Sire- International Grade A show jumper.
 
its better for unwanted horses and ponies to go for slaughter than be neglected by somone who does want them and them end up suffering. many of them shouldnt be bred in the first place
 
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dealers are only interested into cheap old horses and yerling which they halter break and sell on.

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Im sorry to say that this really isnt the case at all. Passes strong coffee to poster for a good hard sniff......are you awake yet?
 
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its better for unwanted horses and ponies to go for slaughter than be neglected by somone who does want them and them end up suffering. many of them shouldnt be bred in the first place

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Well said.

To the people who farm these mountain ponies etc, they are no more than meat on the hoof, just as their cattle and sheep are, no-one fusses about sheep or cattle being bred. It doesn't actually make them necessarily bad people, just businessmen with a less emotional attachment to horses than some.
 
All those job lots of ponies in ring two will go straight through & onto the meat wagon for peanuts.
We've bought numerous pitiful animals - mares & foals etc. from there to stop them going for meat. The place should be shut down so that those people who wash their hands of horses/ponies by sending them there actually have to take them to the slaughter house direct.
 
Cattle & sheep going to market have far more protection than these ponies though.
You wouldn't get a cow with a new born calf in a pen with other strange adult bullocks, or cattle/sheep generally who've had absolutely no management or care whatsoever taken to market if they've managed to survive a winter on the Brecon Beacons.
These breeders should be forced to microchip/eartag & provide basic care for all their animals if they are going to do it for meat.
 
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This is so true. And, in the cases of the nice sounding horses ("sad sale" - yeah right!) what I don't understand is, if that's where they're destined, why do they have to be put through the stress of the market first? If they're that nice, why haven't they sold privately? Why would you rather cast them off to an experience like that? Is it all about money?
 
Sorry to disillusion you, but you are so wrong. Some horses will have a good Reserve, but most won't. Meatmen/dealers couldn't give a toss if a horse is 18 years or more or less, age means virtually nothing to them.
 
tricky one!

I have sold at sales and yes, some of them have been a bit cranky (but not bad enough to warrant pts if they found the right home)but the majority i have sold have been genuine ie. last one we sent through the sales was a genuine livery debt, its owners sent it in for sales livery but it didn't sell as wasn't very easy to ride and we were having hassle off the children at the yard who liked the pony but wouldn't pay to keep it. So to get it gone and have less hassle she went through the sales, made good money and went to a lovely home. I also wouldn't describe any good sale as being part. stressful for the majority of well handled horses.
I realise the job lots will prob go straight for slaughter which is very sad but indescriminate breeding is really to blame. I'm terrible at sales and normally end up with at least one more to take home than planned. I also know the situation in Ireland currently is dire, we had a dealer from ireland stop over recently on his way to potters with irish horses on board, as he said the knackers were simply worth nothing over there anymore and it worked out to be worth more bringing them over here. Terrible terrible situation to be in, and very sad for the horses involved.
 
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