Micronised Linseed for Good do-er?

[WelshD]

I recently bought a pony with bad sweet itch, the vet has given him steriods to get it under control

I'd like to give him something to encourage his skin and coat to be better

He cant put on weight because of the tablets, he has tiny handful of chaff and nuts (low sugar/starch) at the moment to hide his tablets, can I safely add micronised linseed?

 

[Jingleballs]

Can't answer but will be watching with interest as I also have a good doer and wondered if this supplement was suitable or would just lead to weight gain.

 

[Roasted Chestnuts]

Apparently this is one of the 'GOOD' oil products even for good doers.

Read some stuff on the net about it being better for laminitics who need to gain weight than most 'safe' conditioning mixes.

I feed it to my oldie and wee S will get some in winter as good for the joints as well as coat and skin. Shes a good doer and gets very little but she does get scurfy even with being clipped all out all year round. Would rather feed this to maintain coat and weight than give her a proper feed.

My plan is to hunt and do some indoor competitions this winter and she will be getting mostly fibre and oil (linseed meal) based diet as will my oldie So hoping this and her turbo for extra energy for hunting etc we will be fine, not too fat and not lacking in condition for warmth as she lives out all year round fully clipped out (and rugged if necessary!! )

 

[Oberon]

I recently bought a pony with bad sweet itch, the vet has given him steriods to get it under control

I'd like to give him something to encourage his skin and coat to be better

He cant put on weight because of the tablets, he has tiny handful of chaff and nuts (low sugar/starch) at the moment to hide his tablets, can I safely add micronised linseed?

Don't feed anything with molasses at all, as this can make sweet itch worse.

Feed a supplement with plenty of zinc in it.

I have also heard that brewer's yeast is good for sweet itch.

Micronised linseed is a horsey superfood

How it works is that it provides oils omega 3 and 6 to the same ratio as good grass - which is perfect for the horse. It's the magic of Dr Green but without the sugar.

Thanks to the oils, linseed provides joint help, coat conditioning, gut muculage and hoof moisture balance.

If you think of it in terms of humans - omega fish oils are part of the medication cocktail given to patients post heart attack. The benefits of the oil negates the fat in it.

 

[Jingleballs]

Don't feed anything with molasses at all, as this can make sweet itch worse.

Feed a supplement with plenty of zinc in it.

I have also heard that brewer's yeast is good for sweet itch.

Micronised linseed is a horsey superfood

How it works is that it provides oils omega 3 and 6 to the same ratio as good grass - which is perfect for the horse. It's the magic of Dr Green but without the sugar.

Thanks to the oils, linseed provides joint help, coat conditioning, gut muculage and hoof moisture balance.

If you think of it in terms of humans - omega fish oils are part of the medication cocktail given to patients post heart attack. The benefits of the oil negates the fat in it.

Very useful information Oberon. Would you feed any other supplements with Micronised Linseed or it is almost as good as the more general supplements?

 

[trendybraincell]

My good doer gets micronised linseed and brewers yeast They're both excellent...he gets half a balancer type cup of linseed a day, and its not added any weight.

 

[Oberon]

Very useful information Oberon. Would you feed any other supplements with Micronised Linseed or it is almost as good as the more general supplements?

I use it alongside Pro Balance +, yea-sacc and herbs.

 

[Jingleballs]

I use it alongside Pro Balance +, yea-sacc and herbs.

Thank you. I currently feed equimins advanced and wasn't sure if I could feed ML with this as it is supposed to be a complete supplement.

Equimins do their own Diamond Omega ML supplement which also has other ingredients so it might be worth just switching to this instead of the advanced.

 

[NeverSayNever]

i did some research on this for helping ease an itchy pony a few years back and cant remember all the details however i remember that the type of omega is important and they are not all the same; the specific one known to ease itching is alpha linolenic acid. I think flaxseed is another name for linseed but maybe someone can confirm? More info here

http://www.holistichorse.com/Nutrition/making-sense-of-omegas-flax-hemp-fish-oil-something-else.html

 

[WelshD]

I think llinseed comes from flaxseeds

Thank you all for the information, I already feed the micronised linseed to my show chickens so have it here anyway

I will look out for a supplement with Zinc thank you for that recommendation. Rest assured I'm not feeding anything mollased

 

[HashRouge]

We have two good doers on micronised linseed; one Arab and one Welsh D. Both have been on it for ages and weight looks good

 

[Lancelot]

I feed ML to my good doer - a handful twice a day and he's fine weight wise.
He's also a sweet itcher for which I've used brewers yeast with excellent results.

 

[MrVelvet]

Is micronised linseed the same as linseed meal?

 

[JenHunt]

Is micronised linseed the same as linseed meal?

not usually.
Linseed meal is usually produced for cattle feed by extracting the oil (which contains a cyanide like toxin), leaving a high protein, low oil residue, which is then ground to a meal, or put into "cake" or pellets.

micronised linseed is usually rolled linseed that is then microwaved to burst the cells that contain the oil, and to destroy the toxin that is in raw linseed. the cooking by microwaving it makes it more digestible.

to be certain look at the white bag label which should have all the declarations on it. LM will have about 5-10% oil content, ML will have an oil content of 15-20% or more.

 

[MrVelvet]

Thankyou, that was really helpful. So Micronised will be better for weight gain in my sensitive boy.

 

[WelshD]

Thank you all again, lots of very useful information here

I have brewers yeast for the chickens too so can use that for the pony as well

 

[JenHunt]

Thankyou, that was really helpful. So Micronised will be better for weight gain in my sensitive boy.

yes, it would!

glad I could help! fount of useless knowledge that I am!

 

[Inchy]

I have a native with sweetitch, who is a VERY good doer! He has no molasses in his feeds currently : graze on chaff, benevit advance, micronised linseed, mag ox and brewers yeast. On this diet we can manage his sweetitch, I control his grass intake to watch his weigh but feed the recommended amount of ML

 

[Wundahorse]

I give ML to all of my three including WB's and the Section D,all of who are good doers.I give it for joint and coat health and to improve the feet.It is fantastic value as a supplement as a bag costs about £22.Would certainly recommend it.I also hope it will improve the section D's feet which have been a little brittle in this dry spell.

 

[mulberrymill]

I feed micronised linseed to all 3 of mine, all very different in their needs, 2 not good doers as they are getting on, one is fine . They are all barefoot, so on sugar free, high fibre diets. They all get Pink powder, and the good doer, has mild sweet itch and can be stressy to ride, so he has brewers yeast as well. The supplement bin in the feed room has more in it than the main feeds