Minkymoo's post...HOW FAT IS TOO FAT?

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so the stone per hand ratio isn't viable???


would you allow a fourteen stone person ride a 14hh pony?

i'm of the opinion that as far as the New Forest breed is concerned, they can, and are able to, carry such.

if you owned a 16hh cob, would this be a 16 stone limit?

i have a very good male friend who owns a 15.3 cob, hunts at least 5 times a month, .......... unfortunately from this thread, it seems he shouldn't do this......as he weighs 18 stone 4 lbs.......

maybe he should go out in the field riding a chieftan tank??
 
I'd say half a walrus.
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i weight 14 stone and ride a 16hh tb and when i had him i was 16 stone.. and he was happy to caryr me.. and hasnt had any back trouble.. till alst week end.. and i dunno what he's dun bless him!

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i weight 14 stone and ride a 16hh tb and when i had him i was 16 stone.. and he was happy to caryr me.. and hasnt had any back trouble.. till alst week end.. and i dunno what he's dun bless him!

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Now you sound like about 1/8 of a decent walrus...if that helps?
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I think as a rule of thumb a well bred horse with the right bone can take the stone per hand. FGS I used to hop on the shettie to give my kids demos!! And I'm damn sure if the little monkey could tank off and get me off out the front door he wasnt struggling to carry me.

We have a 13.1hh NF arriving in a weeks time, and I specifically wanted a NF so it could carry me without being too big or strong for my child. I've had mixed reactions, one vetinary nurse was appalled that i was saying i was going to hack it out three times a week, and might attempt minimus jumping in the summer... apprently adults shouldnt ride "children's ponies".
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Well at the NF breed show there is a class where they have to be ridden by someone of the weight/height (14hh=14stone), or they used to anyway. This was a few years ago. My little man has back troubles (he's a 14hh NF) so I put a 11/12 stone weight limit on him(dependent on rider capability). He is also alighter NF than some.

However breeds like big cobs and haflingers I might put a bit more on if they are just going to potter about hacking or something as they are bred to carry. (ie maybe 15hh take 16 stone maybe? Probably not too much more than that) I don't know, have never actually been in that situation.
 
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'maybe he should ride a chieftan tank'

Or maybe he should eat a bit less!!!

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Why???
 
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'maybe he should ride a chieftan tank'

Or maybe he should eat a bit less!!!

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what an ignorant comment.

My father weighs that, and isnt at all fat. He's a farmer and is pure muscle.
 
well.....my little bog cob is 14hh built like a brick shoite house, is short coupled and four square..14 stone wouldn't be a problem, neither would it be for my welsh cob.
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Good grief! I broke in a 13.1hh NF pony a couple of years ago. She was a stocky one (to be polite! ha ha!). I'm 5ft 6 and weigh about 10 stone. I competed her dressage and showing and did some jumping up to about 2ft6 and XC on her before I sold her. I got some funny looks taking her out of the horsebox but once I was on it was clear I wasn't too big. I'm on the wrong computer, but I'll send you some pictures of me riding her.
 
Bailey is just over 17hh and I would'nt be happy with somebody 17 stone riding him especially not with the weight of the saddle etc added.

That "rule" is useless, you would'nt put somebody 12 stone on a 12hh show pony, and the horses type, levels of fitness and muscle tone should be taken into consideration.
 
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Bailey is just over 17hh and I would'nt be happy with somebody 17 stone riding him especially not with the weight of the saddle etc added.

That "rule" is useless, you would'nt put somebody 12 stone on a 12hh show pony, and the horses type, levels of fitness and muscle tone should be taken into consideration.

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so my mate on his cob is doing wrong...yes or no?
 
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'maybe he should ride a chieftan tank'

Or maybe he should eat a bit less!!!

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Why???

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Just a suggestion - only if he is uncomfortable riding at that weight!
If he's happy at that weight and the horse can carry him then no problem.
As a rather overweight rider myself I have no problem with larger people riding but if there was a problem the solution is to eat less - that's why I said that!
 
IMO the hands high to stones ratio just doesn't make sense. After all, are all tall humans capable of carrying heavier weights than smaller humans?? Is a 14hh show pony capable of carrying the same weight as a 14hh Haflinger?? To me, it is all to do with the amount of bone a horse has, how well its weight is spread across its legs (i.e. nicely spaced in the 'corners' = good), and how fit and generally balanced it is - nothing else.

I have to confess to being a bit of a "fattist" in life in general, but I really do think there is a horse out there for most sizes of people. The lady (and I use the term loosely) on Minkymoo's post is one of those who should stay on the ground.
 
I wouldn't allow a 14 stone person to ride a new forest pony, not if it belonged to me....

I have a lightweight 18 year old 15.3 TB and I weigh 8.75 stone.

I consider that to be his limit.

I used to ride my arthritic 15.3 chunky bent-legged ID X until he let me know that he had had enough.

An analogy:

Compare it to walking up the staircase to the feed room carrying a 20kg sack of Alfpha A or Happy Hoof. I know I walk up those stairs a lot easier on my own or just carrying a bucket!
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Edited to say, I got confused I thought your mate was 14hh riding a NF pony.

I have to say I think 18+stone is a bit much for a 15.3hh cob to hunt on, on paper. Hunting is very strenuous.... I probably wouldn't say that if he was pottering about. Is the cob very HW? I suppose the only way to judge is to get the cob checked out by a physio/vet and see what they say. If they find problems then yes your mates too heavy.

IMO Cobs are built to be weight carrying (as long as you have a good example of the breed as with anything) whereas show ponies are not. To me there is no comparison.
 
mine have carried 18 stones easily, but only as a one off, because I dont want them carrying that much, they regularly carry 14 stones, and my 8 stones LOL.
 
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'maybe he should ride a chieftan tank'

Or maybe he should eat a bit less!!!

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Why???

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Just a suggestion - only if he is uncomfortable riding at that weight!
If he's happy at that weight and the horse can carry him then no problem.
As a rather overweight rider myself I have no problem with larger people riding but if there was a problem the solution is to eat less - that's why I said that!

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I don't think i mentioned that my mate was uncomfortable about his weight....in fact he's a retained fireman......
 
I'm surprised the horse hasn't keeled over, to be quite honest (sorry!)
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I know a retained fireman and he isn't 18 stone. More like 10 and a half.
 
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I'm surprised the horse hasn't keeled over, to be quite honest (sorry!)
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I know a retained fireman and he isn't 18 stone. More like 10 and a half.

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10 1/2 stone? he must be a pretty small guy. Most blokes I know are around the 12 / 13 stone mark.
 
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I wouldn't allow a 14 stone person to ride a new forest pony, not if it belonged to me....

I have a lightweight 18 year old 15.3 TB and I weigh 8.75 stone.

I consider that to be his limit.

I used to ride my arthritic 15.3 chunky bent-legged ID X until he let me know that he had had enough.

An analogy:

Compare it to walking up the staircase to the feed room carrying a 20kg sack of Alfpha A or Happy Hoof. I know I walk up those stairs a lot easier on my own or just carrying a bucket!
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are you familiar with true "forest" bred ponies?

i have a 13.3hh pony who is built like a brick sh1thouse...i would have NO QUALMS whatsoever with putting a 12/13 stone person on him.
 
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I wouldn't allow a 14 stone person to ride a new forest pony, not if it belonged to me....

I have a lightweight 18 year old 15.3 TB and I weigh 8.75 stone.

I consider that to be his limit.

I used to ride my arthritic 15.3 chunky bent-legged ID X until he let me know that he had had enough.

An analogy:

Compare it to walking up the staircase to the feed room carrying a 20kg sack of Alfpha A or Happy Hoof. I know I walk up those stairs a lot easier on my own or just carrying a bucket!
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are you familiar with true "forest" bred ponies?

i have a 13.3hh pony who is built like a brick sh1thouse...i would have NO QUALMS whatsoever with putting a 12/13 stone person on him.

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I TOTALLY agree!
 
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I'm surprised the horse hasn't keeled over, to be quite honest (sorry!)
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I know a retained fireman and he isn't 18 stone. More like 10 and a half.

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horses must be made of stern stuff round here then...i dont thik 18 stone is heavy for a bloke...n
 
were i to be stuck in a fire and needed carrying out, I'd rather the 18 stone man carry me down the stairs... his knees wouldnt buckle under my fat backsode
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