Mobile field shelter on existing hard standing

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Hi. I know that probably to get a definitive answer I should approach my local council - but I'm thinking I'd rather not actively draw their gaze to my mobile field shelter! Basically I've had a very basic shelter on skids for a few years and it can be moved about the field, it has no base, just straight on grass. Obviously this year the grass has gone and even the mud has gone and it's just flooded! So I was wondering if I could move the shelter onto an exisiting and totally legal area of hardstanding I have near to the field gate. I don't know if this would make the shelter 'permanent', but the hardstanding is already there, I'd just be utilising it for the winter and not putting any new hardstanding down... Any thoughts appreciated!
 
I would move it and keep quiet, as you have been moving it regularly and can do so again once the weather is better I cannot think of any reason not to, one near me had only moved once in several years and has now moved permanently into what is probably firewood having taken off in the winds and been deposited in pieces in their arena.
 
So long as the shelter is towable, I can't imagine that it matters where it's located within your field. It wouldn't have even occurred to me that putting it on a hard standing would make it illegal! If you have the means I would move it. If you get any complaints from the council (I don't think you will) you can always moved it off the hard standing.
 
i would move it and say nothing, if it is queried just say its on there until the flooding has gone.they would be pretty harsh to expect you to tow it into the mud especially as we have had such a long wet spell
 
I don't see what the problem is. The hard standing is legal and the shelter is mobile. My planning dept once told me that the shelter had to be move a substantial distance on a regular basis to be considered mobile and not need pp. They wouldn't/couldn't define substantial or regular. I had hard standing and put a mobile shelter on it without PP. That's been there over 15 years without comment, although at one time the shelter was moved twice a year along the road to a different field.
 
Move it and keep stumm. A solicitor friend put a mobile in and gradually over a number of years did all the work to make it permanent and no-one noticed or objected. She now has a very nice yard with a couple of stables, hard standing etc in an area where it is notoriously difficult to get pp. I don't normally condone this sort of behaviour but tbh I'd rather see nicely constructed and effective stables than a half falling down mobile (and there's lots round here).
 
My parents were refused planning permission for a tasteful limestone stable block (in a National Park) so put up a mobile stable block on a pad of hardcore with full knowledge of the planning officer and have never moved it once in the ten years it has been there. Of course the bat box they put up on the end wall meant they weren't actually ALLOWED to move it in case bats had taken up residence ?
 
'meaningful' movement of field shelter is the word I recall when researching before we bought land. Agree whether its grass or hardstanding shouldn't matter if it's all for the same defined use and they are highly unlikely to define how far and often you move it. A few feet clearly isn't meaningful!! The only people likely to police will be neighbours etc as planning authorities don't have the means - albeit they will investigate when issues are raised. Mobile field shelters with hidden storage were our back up option if we didn't get permission for stables - which fortunately we did. Interestingly in the initial planning advice reply from local authority (extract below) they clearly know mobile field shelters can be freely used - assuming of course the land has permission for equine use. You might find they would support application for stables on the handstanding to avoid the field shelters. If we hadn't been successful with planning we would have probably told them in advance field shelters were going up everywhere - which may have changed their decision. good luck

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Brownmare said:
My parents were refused planning permission for a tasteful limestone stable block (in a National Park) so put up a mobile stable block on a pad of hardcore with full knowledge of the planning officer and have never moved it once in the ten years it has been there. Of course the bat box they put up on the end wall meant they weren't actually ALLOWED to move it in case bats had taken up residence ?
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love the bat box idea - opens up all sorts of opportunities!!
 
Thanks all. I was probably making it more complicated than it really is! I just had a thing in my head that if I moved it onto hardstanding then it wouldn't count as mobile any more. But as you say, I suppose the worst that will happen is I'm asked to move it back into the swamp!
 
Brownmare said:
My parents were refused planning permission for a tasteful limestone stable block (in a National Park) so put up a mobile stable block on a pad of hardcore with full knowledge of the planning officer and have never moved it once in the ten years it has been there. Of course the bat box they put up on the end wall meant they weren't actually ALLOWED to move it in case bats had taken up residence ?
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Oooh I'd never thought of that, interesting.
I'm under the belief that if a mobile field shelter hasn't been moved for 4 years then it's a permanent structure.
I don't see any issue with moving one onto hard standing, you can claim it's for animal welfare to give them somewhere dry to stand.
 
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