More problems with Clumber

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Today I saw doggie having a sort of fit. He was sitting in his basket and his head was trembling like a Parkinsons symptom.
He has exercise induced collapse and I wonder if this is a symptom, or if its something different. He hasn't collapsed while exercising since Ive had him. Have googled it and it seems like something they call idiopathic head tremor ( which apparently means they don't know what causes it ) Seem to be finding out more things wrong with this dog. I suspect he has arthritis in his hind leg as he sometimes yelps when he gets up or knocks it.
He is only young but I suppose as a working dog he is high mileage. He is still staying though , Im totally in love with him! Reason I got another dog was my other dog was getting old and he is my only "family" so didn't want to be left "dogless", may be this one will not outlast the oldie!
 
My dober does the head tremor occasionally. It was explained to me like when we get a twitch in our eye? A quiet stroke and he stops.


Given he is sore enough to vocalise I'd prob get some X-rays done to see what the situation is.
 
EIC doesn't happen when a dog is sat in his basket - as the name implies it occurs after short intensive bursts of activity normally. I would therefore hazard a guess that the head trembling was something else. Did you know he had EIC when you took him on?

What makes you think he has arthritis in his hind leg? I thought he was quite a young dog. I would be more suspicious of hip issues given the breed to be honest. Have you looked up the breed average hip scores and any of the surveys? It's not pretty reading. :(
 
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I would second what GGD says about possible hip problems - far more likely at that age in a Clumber than arthritis I would have thought, but if he is yelping it is painful enough to warrant a trip to the vet....
 
It is such a shame when people offload poorly dogs like him. I do hope you can get to the bottom of his problems. How is the scratching?
 
The scratching is still going on but to a lesser degree, all the scabs and sore places have gone. Yes Gunnerdog I did know about the EIC, its the reason he was being rehomed to a pet home. . He has worked during the last shooting season I believe. He possibly does have hip issues but I still have him under a sort of loan/trial agreement so trying to get his paperwork etc. then once he is officially signed over I will get him a full MOT !
Every "preloved" dog i have had has had some health issues, Setter had horrendously malformed hip which had been operated on before I got him, and never gave him a problem. Other setter had a congenital bladder problem, and current dog has pancreatitis !(Not feeling too bright myself at mo either :D )
 
It could be a pain response...id definitely do a hip x Ray...

In the meantime,how are his ears?
....spaniels do have the tendency to have dirty/ sore ears....i would give a deep ear clean with epiotic ,..cut/ pull any excess ear hair...then use thornit on a weekly basis..
I'm glad he has you in his corner.
 
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I still have him under a sort of loan/trial agreement so trying to get his paperwork etc. then once he is officially signed over I will get him a full MOT !
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You sound to be fully committed to this dog, which is admirable. However, unless money is no object to you and you are 'emotionally robust' for want of a better phrase then I would advise doing the full MOT before he is signed over to you. Yes, it may cost you a bit but at least that way you go into the ownership with your eyes wide open and with a fair idea of what it may cost you, both financially and emotionally.. Only then can you decide if it is something that you can afford (and I don't just mean financially) or even, enjoy! :)
 
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You sound to be fully committed to this dog, which is admirable. However, unless money is no object to you and you are 'emotionally robust' for want of a better phrase then I would advise doing the full MOT before he is signed over to you. Yes, it may cost you a bit but at least that way you go into the ownership with your eyes wide open and with a fair idea of what it may cost you, both financially and emotionally.. Only then can you decide if it is something that you can afford (and I don't just mean financially) or even, enjoy! :)
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This ^^^^ has to be the soundest advice. With the dog's possible health problems being known by you and your vets, should you have the full health check done pre-official acquisition, then those aspects will almost certainly bar him from insurance.

It's also, as ggd points out, not only a case of the likely financial costs, but that of taking on a dog which will most likely cause you considerable costs from an emotional aspect.

It does sound as though you're planning to take on a great deal more than just a Clumber spaniel, and in your shoes, I'd consider your next step, very carefully. It may not be what you want to hear, but my thoughts are offered with the best of intentions.

Alec.
 
Hind might be cruciate or dysplasia. Ask the rescue for an x ray.

My older spaniel had what seemed to be a fit when sitting on my knee one time, never seen anything since, it was almost like a minor fugue (sp?).
 
Gunnerdog and Alec, you are both voice of reason ! My head tells me you are so right, but my heart tells me something else. Who knows which will win !
 
gunnerdog and Alec are both totally correct in what they say BUT I'm a heart rules head person!! I would do my very best for the dog and if it became too much I would pts. At least the dogs future would be secure either way.

Wishing you a happy outcome x
 
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