My filly has the same sire as her Dam

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Hi,everyone i've just purchased my 1st welsh(sec c) she's a yearling filly and absolutely gorgeous think i was besoted and i didn't realise her sire is the same as her dam's does this affect things in any way she's already done well previously in the show's she's been to before i owned her her dam's Blaengwen Deeta and her sires Synod Master Man previous lines include menai,derwen,fronarth to name a few also what height she i expect her to make think she may go over she's around 13h/13.1hh now at 15mth old i'd sed a pic but don't know how but if you google blaengwen delta that's my filly x
 
Unfortunately not uncommon. Close inbreeding can be a useful tool to see what lurks under the phenotype but as this pairing has been done at least 5 times it is probably more a matter of convenience rather than deliberate selection.
 
Thanks synod master man is her sire and her dam's sire but can't find him anywhere else along the line and she was the Winner of best section C or D foal class and Champion foal on Sunday of Hay-On-Wye sale, top price section C of the Sale which is where the stud i got her from purchased her they were just selling as their sec c is overheight and they need smaller because she'll make full up 13.2
 
Surely a section C is still a section C, even if it goes overheight? I believed they were different breeds, not just one is bigger than the other?!
 
Astons Mummy - taken from WPCs

4. TRANSFERS BETWEEN SECTIONS

On the basis of height certified by a Veterinary Surgeon, the Society may sanction:

4.1 A transfer from Section A to Section B of stock which has grown over 12 hands.

4.2 A transfer from Section C to Section D of stock which has grown over 13 hands 2 inches.

4.3 A transfer from Section D to Section C of stock, seven years old or over, which does not exceed 13 hands 2 inches.
 
AMW said:
Astons Mummy - taken from WPCs

4. TRANSFERS BETWEEN SECTIONS

On the basis of height certified by a Veterinary Surgeon, the Society may sanction:

4.1 A transfer from Section A to Section B of stock which has grown over 12 hands.

4.2 A transfer from Section C to Section D of stock which has grown over 13 hands 2 inches.

4.3 A transfer from Section D to Section C of stock, seven years old or over, which does not exceed 13 hands 2 inches.
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What on earth is the point of that then?
 
jrp204 said:
When it works it's called 'line breeding' when it doesn't it's called 'inbreeding'.
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SMILE! The second pure bred CB mare we purchased is also in-bred, accidentally and not by design. Difficult to put in foal, which can be a problem with in-bred horses. However, we loved her temperament and never regretted the purchase. We finally put her in foal to our home bred Shagya stallion, after one covering. The foal is a stunner.

I would never plan to breed like this but in our case we have a happy outcome.
 
jrp204 said:
When it works it's called 'line breeding' when it doesn't it's called 'inbreeding'.
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Putting a mare back to her own sire isn't line-breeding, that's in-breeding! One aspect of line-breeding is when we have a stallion as a grandsire on the sire line and the same horse as the great grandsire on the dam line. I'm not too sure if it's the same thing the other way about though!

Alec.
 
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