myler combination bits.... and other questions!

[Hemirjtm]

hi eveyone,

before you read this post, plaese don't judge me....I know it is not the best solution to change a horses bit and to mask the problem but i've had enough....

my 16hh, 11yr old, arab x french trotter, is quite a handful. He has become very strong and i'm not enjoying riding him at the moment. All i can do is hack as haven't got anywhere to school. He is ridden in a Pelham, with cupplings (sp!)

A couple of people have suggested the Myler Combination Bit, and i was wondering if anyone uses one of these with their horse? Can anyone give me any more info about them, how they work, the different lengths of shank...anything would be usefull.

Would you stick to the pelham and cupplings, change to a pelham and 2 reins (never used 2 before), or change his bit, if so what would you change it to? I know it's a little difficult when you don't know the horse or have never ridden him before, so i don't know if you can answer these questions...My ideal answer would be to put him in a snaffle, but i would have NO control if i did that!!! I love him to bits but just hav ehad enough of not being in control!

if you have reached this far...thankyou..

2 websites i found about the myler combination bits:
http://www.belstane.com/myler/myler11.htm
https://www.gillsbitbank.co.uk/shop/ProdList.asp?PT=3

my post makes him sound as though he is a really difficult horse, he's not, it's just that he was used to doing endurance and going for a long time and i jsut havn't got the time to ride him for ages, and i can only ide 2/3 times a week, so maybe the problem comes for there, the fact that he has got too much energy and he woud settle down if i could ride him 5/6 times a week....what do you think?

ok, thankyou again for reading my post

 

[Evil_Cookie]

I'd see an instructor and ask their opinion, just because the bits are expensive and not necasarily a cure all. Could you not get a sharer? So you don't feel guilty not riding enough and he gets enough exercise to keep him sane? If you had a lesson with an instructor they could see what the problem is and either help with schooling (you can do it while you hack) or help with bit choice.
Good luck whatever happens.

 

[flyingfeet]

What does your horse actually do when ridden?

Is it just leaning, or are they running off with you?

What sort of pelham are you using and what sort of curb - what does your horse do in this bit when being naughty? (Head up or down)

 

[squirtlysmum]

I used a Myler on my hubby's horse who was an absolute git, he'd either stick his head up and run off, or stick it down and run off, on a good day he even used to manage to get his tongue over the bit and wave it at me just prior to running off again!
Rode him in the Myler and he was completely different and I had complete control, I could school him and get half pass etc but without the Myler no chance!
I also rode him in a Pelham prior to the Myler and I swear he used to laugh before just going where he wanted, swine!

 

[vickers22]

which myler did you use?sounds like what i need!

 

[H-J]

Myler combination bits are excellent!

They disperse the pressure onto the nose and poll before mouth - therefore not harsh in the mouth.

You can use roundings on them to start off with. They do short shanks and long shanks obv the long shanks have more pull and they do a range of mouth pieces from the comfort snaffle mouthpiece to high ported mouth pieces.

I cannot say enough how excellent myler bits are! Try and get one on a trial first as they are quite expensive. incase it doesnt work!

 

[Hemirjtm]

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I'd see an instructor and ask their opinion, just because the bits are expensive and not necasarily a cure all. Could you not get a sharer? So you don't feel guilty not riding enough and he gets enough exercise to keep him sane? If you had a lesson with an instructor they could see what the problem is and either help with schooling (you can do it while you hack) or help with bit choice.
Good luck whatever happens.

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thanks for replying....I agree with the fact that bits are not a cure but i really don't think i have another choice. I don't have a horsebox at the moment and it's not as easy in England tto find a sharer, and to be honest, the way he is at the moment i wouldn't trust him with anyone else, and he tends to be even wose after someone else has ridden him. Will be starting lessons in a few weeks (hopefully) so will wait and see!

 

[Hemirjtm]

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What does your horse actually do when ridden?

Is it just leaning, or are they running off with you?

What sort of pelham are you using and what sort of curb - what does your horse do in this bit when being naughty? (Head up or down)

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He runs off with me, with his head down. I think it's a vulcanite pelham.

 

[Hemirjtm]

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I used a Myler on my hubby's horse who was an absolute git, he'd either stick his head up and run off, or stick it down and run off, on a good day he even used to manage to get his tongue over the bit and wave it at me just prior to running off again!
Rode him in the Myler and he was completely different and I had complete control, I could school him and get half pass etc but without the Myler no chance!
I also rode him in a Pelham prior to the Myler and I swear he used to laugh before just going where he wanted, swine!



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Mine does that, put his tongue over the bit then i have no control. thanks for the personal experience, i think that the Myler might be a good idea and it sounds like a 'firm but fair' type of bit.

 

[Hemirjtm]

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Myler combination bits are excellent!

They disperse the pressure onto the nose and poll before mouth - therefore not harsh in the mouth.

You can use roundings on them to start off with. They do short shanks and long shanks obv the long shanks have more pull and they do a range of mouth pieces from the comfort snaffle mouthpiece to high ported mouth pieces.

I cannot say enough how excellent myler bits are! Try and get one on a trial first as they are quite expensive. incase it doesnt work!

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thnks for the info, the stuff on the internet is a bit complexe and long to read! I think i may try and find one to try, just a little bit mor difficult in France!

 

[Ferdinase514]

I have one on loan to trial, at the moment - but haven't had time to try it yet!

Phone this lady: http://abitdifferent.co.uk/

She is lovely and will help you find the right one for you.

This is my post from last week:

http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/sh...rue#Post1711238

The combination bit is supposed to work, not because it is strong, but because of it's action on lots of different areas.

Nothing wrong with trying different bits

 

[Hemirjtm]

thanks for that, will have to see if she would let someone in france try something, or i will have to get off my bum and try and find smething like that over here!

 

[Ferdinase514]

Oooh sorry! Didn't notice you were in France. Apparently there are lots of them on e-bay

 

[Hemirjtm]

don't worry....they are on ebay, had a look this afternoon, but i'm worid that if he doesn't like it or it's not ight fo him then i paid quite a bit of money fo something tha i can't use.

 

[Ferdinase514]

Sure you would sell it on e-bay again, quite easily.

 

[Frankstown]

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She is lovely and will help you find the right one for you.

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Thanks, I try my best