Mystery Lameness

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October 2020 I move my horse to a new facility as I moved out of state which in turn meant a new farrier. I used a farrier recommended by the farm owner until June of 2020 until i switched as i noticed my horses feet were becoming "platters" and his heel was becoming underrun. I switch farriers to a highly recommended farrier by many friends, my horse loses BR shoe 2 times within 9 days and farrier fails to show up multiple times to put the shoe back on and horses feet are cracking a ton so i made a switch again.

9/4/2020 - New new farrier comes out to re shoe horse and discovers horse has white line in all 4 and seedy toe on right front. We leave shoes pulled in order to better treat these conditions. 2 weeks later horse turns up with an abscess in front right. Abscess pops out of toe and horse is sound, 7 days later horse re abscesses and pops the next day out of toe to right of original track.

10/14/2020- horse is still barefoot and doing much better until he re abscesses again. I do the usual soak and wrap however after 4 days it has not popped. Call vet out to do xrays and everything is normal so she does her abscess treatment and horse pops on 10/22 out of the coronary band.

10/30/2020 - horse is completely sound and barefoot. I decide to attempt riding horse with front hoof boots and he is lame undersaddle.

11/5/2020 - Trainer and farrier access lameness on lunge and decide its upper hind limb related however horse is drastically sounder when he is engaged in the hind end. We decide to try and build up his hind end at walk and see if it improves.

11/19/2020 - horse continues to be lame but is improving. Sounder on grass than in the arena.

12/6/2020- I decide to get the horse a massage she states his hind end is very tight (specifically more on right side) and left shoulder is also tight. Probably relating to compensating for abscess in right front.

12/7/2020 - I get on the horse and he is completely sound

12/8/2020 - I have the horse get a chiropractic adjustment per massage therapists rec. I have my vet do it and she also says his hind end is tight but that his shoulders had great flexibility.

12/9/2020 - I ride the horse and he starts sound, I walk for a bit then ask for the trot and he is lame. I get off and discover he has a large cut on his heel on front right. I give him 1 week off.

12/13/2020 - I ride the horse and he starts sound but becomes lamer throughout ride. I give horse another few days off

12/17/2020- I ride horse and he is lame without hoof boots on front

12/19/2020- I try riding in hoof boots on fronts and he is much sounder I only trot one line each way to access

12/20/2020 - I ride horse lightly and he is sound I attempt a canter and he is almost loping (this is a warmblood were talking about) and refusing to go forward and extend canter. I walk for about 5-10 minutes I attempt trotting again and horse is lame. I try him bareback and he is noticeably sounder but still slightly lame.


Today (12/22) I am going to have my saddle fit checked and farrier is watching him go and is adjusting trim. We have decided to put front shoes on but that will not be happening today (sometime later this week)

Other symptoms:
- slighty reluctant to walk up and down hills
- hooves are hard as a rock and have no heat
- no heat in any joints
- slight popping sound in 6 lumber region of spine i can feel at walk bareback, was told nothing to worry about but wanted to include
- sounder on grass than in arena
- was tested for lymes and had insulin levels checked and both normal
- plays in field normally


Horses information
-17 years old
- 17 hands
-gelding
- irish sport horse
- not remarkably over weight but is out of shape at the moment
- has never had saddle fit issues
- arthritis in hocks and had them injected in july, has never caused problems when managed
 

AmyMay

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Could be the arthritis- it’s five months since his hocks were medicated.

But it does sound as if a full lameness work up may be beneficial. It will be interesting to see if there’s an improvement after the shoes have been put back on though.
 

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how are his white lines now? How are his frogs / heels? what is he fed? was there a significant difference in feed / lifestyle at the new yard from the old? if he is out at grass for any length of time, what is the grass like in comparison to old yard and can you try taking him off the grass completely for a few days to see if there is any change in soundness?

Of course it might be something not hoof-related, but the hooves going splat and white line disease, cracking up and all those abscesses would worry me - and I would doubt it is just the farrier unless they really were awful. Sounder on grass and with boots on also suggests it might be the hooves.
 

ester

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He is a big, aged horse.
With the hocks that you say have not been a problem managed previously I wonder if the fact that the horse has been unable to work properly has meant that the muscle tone he once had to support them, and any other arthritic bits of his body given his size and age now no longer exists.

Do you have any hoof photos?

I would also say do not underestimate the effect of a newly barefoot horse being slightly foot sore on the rest of his body. He's not been out of shoes for a very long time and if his hooves were as poor/under run as you suggest it seems likely to me that he just doesn't have the good soft tissue required in the hoof to support his weight/movement.
 
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