NAF Pink Powder Breakdown

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Somebody asked me on another thread why I dont like this product so instead of thread crashing I thought id start a new one.

NAF pink powder ingredients
Ingredients:
Wheatfeed, Dicalcium phosphate, Maize, Brewers' yeast, Bitter orange peel (ripe), Whey protein powder, Methyl
sulphonyl methane, White mineral oil, Sodium chloride, Fructo-oligosaccharides, Whey powder, Glutamine, Wheat protein, Magnesium oxide.

Wheatfeed - Anything that has feed or meal on the end of it is the sweeping off the factory floor when the actual seed has been used for something else. I dont know why anyone would spend their hard earned money on that, specially when its not concentrated enough to be of any use. This is whats known as a filler, it adds weight to the pretty pink tub but costs NAF nothing ;)

Dicalcium phosphate - mainly found as a binder for cereals and in toothpaste, known irritating effect in humans, of little help to the horse. Is a calcium source but there are far better ones available.


Maize - a cereal which horses arent designed to digest. Low in fibre,high in starch, the opposite of what we want to be feeding horses.


Brewers Yeast - fine though low concentration, again better sources available for your money!

Bitter orange peel (ripe) - I havn't the blinking foggiest why this included! I cant find any studies extolling its benefits for the horse. Im guessing it sounds exotic and tasty?!?! There are experiments being conducted as to whether it can be included in ephedrine free drinks/foods which suggests to me its a stimulant - why is it in a horse supplement?!

Whey protein powder - whey its whats left over from dairy products, something else horses arent designed to eat. Yes it has protein content so good in that sense but again not something id expect to feed to a horse and not have digestive issues. No real benefit.


Methyl sulphonyl methane - msm as its usually known, fine but no details of the source so you dont know if its pure. Also no quantity so unlikely to be enough to make a massive difference.

White mineral oil - the pretty name for liquid petrolatum or liquid paraffin. Derived from crude petroleum. Used to be used as a drench laxative if youve got impaction colic. Guessing its the binder in this supplement.

Sodium chloride - Salt - fine though again no source or dosage listed.

Fructo-oligosaccharides - this is your pre biotic, insulin derived, can be found in some sweeteners, not too bad but doesnt excite me massively!

Whey Powder - See whey protein powder above, listed a second time to pad out the ingredients list?! Same problems now doubled!

Glutamine - one of the 20 amino acids, not recognised as a main one though. Has its uses but we dont know the dosage.

Wheat Protein - similar problem to whey, though this at least obtained from a plant not dairy - but that plant is a cereal. Higher in protein than Maize.

Magnesium Oxide - I sincerely hope these arent listed in order of importance! Plays an important part in nerve endings and muscle functions, known for a calming effect, useful to supplement with in the UK dependent on your grass analysis.

Anything in red I wouldnt be happy to feed my own horse. The rest has its uses but performance is in question in this particular product due to lack of details on sources and quantities. Given the standard of the rest of the ingredients I wouldnt get too excited.

As we know in regards to vets and barefoot, they are often not the most well informed on very specific equine issues - I wouldnt expect a general vet to research each and every supplement available - thats my responsibility as an owner to know EXACTLY what im putting in my horse. They are 'safe' to recommend this as its an approved product and I suspect they do so that over anxious horse owners feel like they're doing something useful/ or get a cut of the sale (me? a cynic?! noooo!)

As always READ THE LABELS and do your own research into what you want to spend your money on and what you think is going to best help your horse.

PS the above all applies to your dog food.......





 
Very interesting reading, i don't feed it or have a need to at the moment so luckily i havent wasted my money!

Unbelievable what they'll shove in feed knowing that the vast majority don't read the label or understand it.
 
Interesting. :)

I've used it in the past after my Welshy had diahorrea after being moved onto a field with better grass than he was used to. He seemed to do well on it. (Mind you, he was in the process of getting better anyway.)
 
Wow! How interesting!!! I always look at the labels, but its not until actually look into what affects they have on the animal you realise how much cr*p they put into the tubs to 'fill' it out
 
a good quality feed balancer has the GOOD bits of pink powder and they state how much is in the product.
most balancers dont have fillers.
i have used pin powder and it has made some horses hyper.
i now feed a balancer 365 days
i have seen fab results/difference over the past 2 years
and it costs me 25p a day and reduces amount of other feed
i only feed fibre based feeds no cereals
i have equines with health, behavioural, veteran issues
stallions/ brodmares/foals to veterans
so have a selection and it works on all my herd
 
I really found this very interesting, thank you TigerTail. I've spent most of this week looking up different multivitamins/supplements for horses and trying to work out which would be best to feed in terms of rda's and other things. Its so confusing if you're not familiar with what you're looking at :( even worse some brands dont put quantities on their websites or labels in terms of mg/kg or iu.

I read on the other thread you dont appear to be a fan of NAF (which I can understand having read this), which makes do you prefer? :)
 
You raise some interesting points but my experience with the product has been all positive. I have used the product for a good number of years on various horses and there has always been a visible difference in condition once started. I am feeding the product now to a laminitc pony who has soaked hay and he is already looking much better, much happier too.

I for one will continue to use this product with confidence.
 
equinim - what balancer do you feed that is so cheap ? mine costs me £25 a bag and last about 5 weeks for one 600kg horse. Would welcome a cheaper alternative
thanks
 
Thanks TigerTail. Interesting breakdown. I too am a cynic when it comes to many of the commercially available products. However, never use balancers, supplements, etc but then the horses here don't get commercial feeds so we don't feel the need.
 
I have been using this product and have found it very good and no adverse effects to my horse.

I have only stopped using it now as my new feed has a balancer incorporated into it already.

Wouldnt stop me using Pink Powder again to be hoest
 
Thank you TigerTail - preaching to the choir here.
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I am often gobsmacked by Naf products. Have you seen the ingredients to Magic or Oestress?
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Not only that but most of the laminitis marketed feeds have Wheatfeed as their base
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Wheatfeed (aka Thirds) is something I've used in the past to put weight on!

If anyone wants the benefits of Pink Powder for a fraction of the price - then just feed Brewer's Yeast
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BREWERS-Y...ar_Equipment&hash=item415bde5a39#ht_970wt_952

and magnesium oxide
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MAGNESIUM...r_Equipment&hash=item4158d7a68b#ht_1237wt_952

Or better still - just the Pro Hoof in a neutral base...
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Tricky isnt it. I dont doubt anything you are saying about the ingredients, but on the other side I can absolutely say my horse stays much weller and much better condition,even in worse seasonal and age conditions than when I dont use it. But thankyou very much for the run down on the ingredients, very interesting and informative.

So I think I will continue to use it based on the evidence of what I see in front of me. PS none of my vets gets a kick back, and based from home counties to NE Scotland so good spread geographically.

The other important thing is that my horse would not eat any of the other balancers/supplements we tried him on but he WILL eat the Pink powder.

I dont have a problem with 'sweepings' either, as you could describe any by product in that way - eg sugar beet pulp is the sweepings after the sugar is taken out of the beet....:-) but still a useful and valuable feed. Or apple pulp for feeding pigs after the juice is extracted.
 
I have always wondered (and still do) why people think pink powder is a miracle cure all... People think its everything from a feed balancer/ multivitamin &mineral supliment to a probiotic, I know it's neither and as such have never fed it
 
interesting, but like many others I've used Pink Powder and had fantastic results

what would your alternative be for a horse with an extremely sensitive digestive system?
 
interesting, but like many others I've used Pink Powder and had fantastic results

what would your alternative be for a horse with an extremely sensitive digestive system?

Yea-sacc and/or brewer's yeast.

But it's not about one magic ingredient, it's about looking at the whole diet.

If the grass/hay/haylage is being fermented in the hind gut by a squadron of certain bacteria, living in a pH that makes them warm and comfy - then supplement to keep them that way, rather than a grain feed that changes the pH and messes up the bacteria.
 
This is a very interesting thread After doing some amateurish research I decided against Pink powder not liking the white mineral oil and orange peel ingredients [do horses normally eat orange peel? ditto white mineral oil?] and bought Equimins instead. I am awaiting delivery but hope that the Equimins contain nothing odd.
 
Doesn't pro-hoof also contain wheatfeed? That's what it says on my tub, anyway... I think more important is the specific vitamin/mineral composition - pro hoof seems to be the only commercially available supplement which is intended to balance typical uk grazing/forage, which is why I buy it.
 
Somebody asked me on another thread why I dont like this product so instead of thread crashing I thought id start a new one.

NAF pink powder ingredients


Wheatfeed - Anything that has feed or meal on the end of it is the sweeping off the factory floor when the actual seed has been used for something else. I dont know why anyone would spend their hard earned money on that, specially when its not concentrated enough to be of any use. This is whats known as a filler, it adds weight to the pretty pink tub but costs NAF nothing ;)

Dicalcium phosphate - mainly found as a binder for cereals and in toothpaste, known irritating effect in humans, of little help to the horse. Is a calcium source but there are far better ones available.


Maize - a cereal which horses arent designed to digest. Low in fibre,high in starch, the opposite of what we want to be feeding horses.


Brewers Yeast - fine though low concentration, again better sources available for your money!

Bitter orange peel (ripe) - I havn't the blinking foggiest why this included! I cant find any studies extolling its benefits for the horse. Im guessing it sounds exotic and tasty?!?! There are experiments being conducted as to whether it can be included in ephedrine free drinks/foods which suggests to me its a stimulant - why is it in a horse supplement?!

Whey protein powder - whey its whats left over from dairy products, something else horses arent designed to eat. Yes it has protein content so good in that sense but again not something id expect to feed to a horse and not have digestive issues. No real benefit.


Methyl sulphonyl methane - msm as its usually known, fine but no details of the source so you dont know if its pure. Also no quantity so unlikely to be enough to make a massive difference.

White mineral oil - the pretty name for liquid petrolatum or liquid paraffin. Derived from crude petroleum. Used to be used as a drench laxative if youve got impaction colic. Guessing its the binder in this supplement.

Sodium chloride - Salt - fine though again no source or dosage listed.

Fructo-oligosaccharides - this is your pre biotic, insulin derived, can be found in some sweeteners, not too bad but doesnt excite me massively!

Whey Powder - See whey protein powder above, listed a second time to pad out the ingredients list?! Same problems now doubled!

Glutamine - one of the 20 amino acids, not recognised as a main one though. Has its uses but we dont know the dosage.

Wheat Protein - similar problem to whey, though this at least obtained from a plant not dairy - but that plant is a cereal. Higher in protein than Maize.

Magnesium Oxide - I sincerely hope these arent listed in order of importance! Plays an important part in nerve endings and muscle functions, known for a calming effect, useful to supplement with in the UK dependent on your grass analysis.

Anything in red I wouldnt be happy to feed my own horse. The rest has its uses but performance is in question in this particular product due to lack of details on sources and quantities. Given the standard of the rest of the ingredients I wouldnt get too excited.

As we know in regards to vets and barefoot, they are often not the most well informed on very specific equine issues - I wouldnt expect a general vet to research each and every supplement available - thats my responsibility as an owner to know EXACTLY what im putting in my horse. They are 'safe' to recommend this as its an approved product and I suspect they do so that over anxious horse owners feel like they're doing something useful/ or get a cut of the sale (me? a cynic?! noooo!)

As always READ THE LABELS and do your own research into what you want to spend your money on and what you think is going to best help your horse.

PS the above all applies to your dog food.......






Hmmm.. what you omit to write here is that Pink Powder also has absolutely loads of vits and mins and is also packed with amino acids (check it out on the NAF website, its all there) Orange peel is extremely high in natural vitamin C , surprised you didnt know this?!

SP
 
I did try brewers and mag ox with Mr Colic and he just looked at me as if I was dog doo.....and refused to eat his food all week. Changed back to PP and all happy. So it might be a much better product but if the horse wont eat it, it can be a waste of money too!

Also the amounts of PP you give mean that fillers or 'bad' ingredients are not likely to have much effect.
 
Hmmm.. what you omit to write here is that Pink Powder also has absolutely loads of vits and mins and is also packed with amino acids (check it out on the NAF website, its all there) Orange peel is extremely high in natural vitamin C , surprised you didnt know this?!

SP

Lmao are you serious??! Of course it says so on NAFs website..... Have you also looked at the amount per mg and then that per weight of horse....?

Yes of course it does have some vits and mins, you'd blinking well hope so really! However what it also contains is a lot of crap and irritants!

As for Vit C, oranges are high in this, bitter orange is different to normal oranges and is used as a stimulant - not what im looking for in a balancer.


Those who are saying you'd still feed it, fine you are at least making an informed decision, im surprised but then thats human nature i guess.

Oberon are you single?! :D ;)
 
Lmao are you serious??! Of course it says so on NAFs website..... Have you also looked at the amount per mg and then that per weight of horse....?

Yes of course it does have some vits and mins, you'd blinking well hope so really! However what it also contains is a lot of crap and irritants!

As for Vit C, oranges are high in this, bitter orange is different to normal oranges and is used as a stimulant - not what im looking for in a balancer.


Those who are saying you'd still feed it, fine you are at least making an informed decision, im surprised but then thats human nature i guess.

Oberon are you single?! :D ;)

Thanks for admitting to the vits and mins,and amino acids strange the poster didnt include them in their breakdown , hey? ... LOL
Damm good product with super results on so many different horses, cant say enough good things about it really
 
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