NAF Rock Hard

[Kat]

Has anyone tried this? Any views?

I have been recommended it for my horse's thin bruised soles but don't want to buy stuff unnecessarily or worse something that might do more harm than good.

Thanks

 

[Kat]

Anyone??

 

[TwoStroke]

Not tried it, sorry. But just wanted to say that it's not possible to make thin soles thicker by putting a dressing on them. Diet and stimulation is the key.

 

[Fransurrey]

Agree with Twostroke. If his soles are thin and bruised, I'd be looking at hoofboots with pads in. This is exactly what I do with my pony who gets seasonal footiness (suspected EMS).

 

[Brightbay]

Naf Rock Hard seems to contain zinc sulphate and MSM - anybody know if it has any other active ingredients?

It's £28 for 250ml.

GoldenHoof foot treatment for sheep is zinc sulphate - it is made into a foot bath and treats foot rot. It comes in crystals that are added to water.

It costs £29.99... for 20 kilos! Yet again, anything sold to horse owners comes with an extreme price tag

I have the Goldenhoof and dilute it into a spray bottle, and use for thrush.

I have no idea if MSM can be absorbed when applied topically, although humans taking it as a supplement reported better hair and nail growth (only if deficient, though, and it occurs naturally in vegetation horses would eat). Not sure what the benefits of topical application would be - presumably as it contains sulphur, it is antibacterial.

So, unless there are some other magic ingredients in Rock Hard, I don't think I'd expect any benefit on hardness of hooves

 

[Kat]

Sorry I know it won't thicken soles but the vet thought it might harden them. Diet is being sorted out and I'm going to get boots for when she comes off box rest.

 

[TwoStroke]

Sorry I know it won't thicken soles but the vet thought it might harden them. Diet is being sorted out and I'm going to get boots for when she comes off box rest.

Tbh, even if it did (which I'm not sure it would) I would be doubtful about the benefit. Think about the horse's sole as a callous. When a layer of skin on a callous gets hard and brittle, it peels off. A thick, tough callous with a good moisture balance is what protects the internal structures of the hoof; a thin, hardened, brittle callous is of no benefit to the horse. Just mho, though .

Glad to hear diet and boots are being sorted - this will help a lot more than any lotions you could use, I think.

 

[Kat]

Thanks, I won't bother buying any, I had my doubts and suspected that it was being recommended more for the benefit of a "worried mum's" peace of mind than for the actual benefit it could deliver.

What are your views on Kevin Bacon Hoof Dressing? I have used this in the past and have some left. I'm unsure whether to use this.

Background is that the horse was shod in front and bare behind but has just had her shoes pulled due to bruised soles.

 

[TwoStroke]

I don't think there's been much research done into these sorts of things, but from the one I remember reading I gathered that the horse's hoof wall maintains it's own moisture balance regardless of wet/dry conditions. So I'd imagine that applying something like kevin bacon would only interfere with the moisture balance of the hoof wall.

The sole on the other hand absorbs water and becomes softer in wet conditions. I guess the question is: would kevin bacon stop the sole from getting too soft, or actually make it softer? I'm not sure, tbh.

 

[andytiger]

Hi I've used it don't think it made a real difference I just feed biotin now made my horses feet alot stronger think its mainly through diet that helps rather than topical lotions

 

[Kat]

Thanks, I don't think I'll buy it then. I'll just wait for my supplements to arrive and continue plotting to get hoof boots!

 

[Miss L Toe]

Thanks, I won't bother buying any, I had my doubts and suspected that it was being recommended more for the benefit of a "worried mum's" peace of mind than for the actual benefit it could deliver.

What are your views on Kevin Bacon Hoof Dressing? I have used this in the past and have some left. I'm unsure whether to use this.

Background is that the horse was shod in front and bare behind but has just had her shoes pulled due to bruised soles.

I find the micronised linseed has made my boy's hooves wonderful, the coronary band is fat and plump, heel bulbs used to be dry and now they are not. I also feed minerals, but I am convinced the linseed has been most beneficial. 50-100gms per day.
Can't comment on soles, they look better but were OK before. He is much less footy than a year ago.
If I were starting out, i would go with non molassed sb flakes and pro earth Balance + at full recommended rate.

 

[paulineh]

I have a mare that has minor Navicular and was recommened to use the Hilton Herbs Nav-X to help the blood supply.

As long as I have had her she has always had cracks around the hooves, starting at the coronary band. For the first time I can now see that there are no cracks at all.

I have been using the Nav-X now for 5 months.

It is always better to treat these things from the inside.

 

[Kat]

I'm already treating from within (or planning to) I've got micronised linseed and pro hoof on order.

 

[Sharonr]

Hi,

I use it and do feel that it's made a difference to my 2 horses keeping shoes on. It may just be a coincidence that neither of them have pulled a shoe off recently but do think the farrier hasn't found it so easy to take shoes off to trim their feet as he used to.

 

[MegaBeast]

I use it and it's brilliant. Use a combiation of Life Data Hoof disinfectant immediately after shoeing, Kevin Bacon dressing over the entire hoof and sole daily and then the rock hard every few days over the sole and to about 0.5cm above the nail holes.

 

[Clava]

Naf Rock Hard seems to contain zinc sulphate and MSM - anybody know if it has any other active ingredients?

It's £28 for 250ml.

GoldenHoof foot treatment for sheep is zinc sulphate - it is made into a foot bath and treats foot rot. It comes in crystals that are added to water.

It costs £29.99... for 20 kilos! Yet again, anything sold to horse owners comes with an extreme price tag

I have the Goldenhoof and dilute it into a spray bottle, and use for thrush.

I have no idea if MSM can be absorbed when applied topically, although humans taking it as a supplement reported better hair and nail growth (only if deficient, though, and it occurs naturally in vegetation horses would eat). Not sure what the benefits of topical application would be - presumably as it contains sulphur, it is antibacterial.

So, unless there are some other magic ingredients in Rock Hard, I don't think I'd expect any benefit on hardness of hooves

Is Goldenhoof good for thrush?

 

[Brightbay]

Is Goldenhoof good for thrush?

I think we are on the same page wrt thrush, Clava There are too many different things involved for one treatment to work on all cases, all the time. But the Goldenhoof is a VERY cheap treatment that does no harm - I have done a few Goldenhoof soaks and it has helped.