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Ok so here's my problem.
I am going to look at some fillies tomorrow with a view to buying one.
I saw the ad, looked very genuine.
Called the woman, apprantly she rescued 20 odd youngsters from a man, who claimed he was going to get rid of them his self (shooting them) as he couldnt afford to get them passported and micro chipped.
So she took them all, to re home them.

None of them have passports or micro chip.

I know your not supposed to buy or sell them without one, but i just want to give one of them a long loving home with us.

What should i do?
 
I'd want to be speaking to the fella she got them from! Why are you BUYING one?? If she took them in she should be rehoming them. Sounds very suspect i'm afraid
 
I would be suspect as well I'm afraid, unless it is the perfect filly for you I would go somewhere else...
 
Probably money will cover for there food and what not. ... I know people who have bought horses and got them passported after purchase with no problems ... or if you find one you want then you could passport it before you take it?
 
I have to agree with amage, it sounds odd to me.
It's a tricky one, we want to do the best by the horses, give them a home for life BUT if it is just an unscrupulous dealer you will simply be lining their pockets and making room for another.
If you decide to buy one good on you, but do inspect them carefully and I, personally would insist that a passport was issued to said horse before you pick her up. That way you aren't in danger of being fined for transport with out a passport. I think, however, that buying a horse without a passport is legal, it is illegal to sell one without a passport (don't rely on me for that one, it's just something I think I may have read once) it is, on the other hand, illegal to transport a horse without a passport.

Do be vigilant, find out as much as possible and ask a lot of questions, just to assert the fact that you won't be conned. Good luck, will look forward to *possibly* seeing pictures soon!
 
Still sounds a bit suspect. I would want his details and to see something in writing where he gave them to her and she is allowed to sell them on. Also she should be passporting/chipping them and if she won't do that I would walk away. She could be genuine but if the reason she got them is coz he couldn't afford to chip/passport them then she should be doing that before she sells them on. if you specifically want to rehome then go to a proper registered charity to rehome one of theirs that will come with vet history etc
 
Go with an open mind and hopefully there will be gem amongst the herd...just don't come home with all of them!!!

I thought that if they didn't have a passport then they had to be micro chipped but i could be wrong.
 
Hm...this is second hand info so definitely check, but I'm sure I've read on here before that it's illegal to sell a horse without a passport but not to buy a horse without one. So if the authorities found out the lady who's selling might be in trouble but you'd be okay. Might be worth finding out if this is right .
 
You can buy a horse without a passport but it's illegal to sell one. Go and have a look, two of my friends have just been given 'free' youngstock in the last two weeks so it's certainly not an unheard of situation, there's no harm in looking, use your common sense and if you pick up any dodgy vibes then investigate further!
 
I'm not sure it is true any more that it is legal to buy a horse without a passport since the full passport law came in last year (?), but in any case it IS illegal to take a horse onto your premises without a passport. I know when we bought Storm, with what turned out to be a stolen passport, TS told me that we were breaking the law because we had him on the premises but they wouldn't take action against us because of the circumstances. Just be really careful and if you agree to buy say that you want the pony microchipping and passporting before you pay and collect. Sometimes dealers use sob stories to get sales, we fell for that with the first 2 we bought!
 
I don't think this sounds suspect at all. Go and have a look....pay the nominal fee required(can't say I blame her) and apply for passport afterwards. Very straightforward.

Good luck :)
 
Dont know the exact law in Uk, but here in Ireland, It's completely un-inforced. Personally, I'd take a chance on it, if you are getting the filly at a good price, and it's not too far away, then, the chances of you being stopped etc.., You can always have the vet ready to mark and microchip, the minute you hit your yard.

In this silly country, even though, since july 2009, it;s law that you have to have everything microchipped and passported, if you'd been to ballinasloe horse fair last week, 3/4's of what was for sale didnt have any paperwork, and nobody there to check.
Saying that, I dont have apassort for my yearling, I do have the marking sheet done, but here , you dont have to have a passport unless you're transporting him. My friend bought a 3 year old filly, no book, got her marked and sold her to uk, leaving on monday!!

I think they're should be a universal passport operation going on, but it will never happen!!
 
Its really not that difficult, I bought my daughters pony back in march and she wasn't microchipped nor had a passport.

She was spot on for my daughter, so paid cash and took her away.
2 days later had vet in, microchipped and forms filled in for passport and sketches done, sent off same day, passport back 3 days after.
Cost about £60 quid in total, for vet and passport fee.

Go and see them, you're not obliged to buy but you might get a lovely youngster for a nominal fee x
 
horseylass said:
Ok so here's my problem.
I am going to look at some fillies tomorrow with a view to buying one.
I saw the ad, looked very genuine.
Called the woman, apprantly she rescued 20 odd youngsters from a man, who claimed he was going to get rid of them his self (shooting them) as he couldnt afford to get them passported and micro chipped.
So she took them all, to re home them.

None of them have passports or micro chip.
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If they have been moved, without passports, the woman has already broken the law. If she sells them - for whatever amount - without a passport, she is breaking the law again. If she has so little regard for the law, how can you believe what she says about the ponies? How can you be sure they are hers to sell? It is JUST as possible that they are stolen. (Thieves and con merchants always APPEAR to be 'very genuine'!)

Even if her story IS true, why does she not get them chipped and passported and then charge an amount for them that will cover that cost (unless they're such poor animals that they 'can't afford' to have an extra £100 added to their cost.)

And if her story IS true, if their breeder couldn't afford to passport them,could he afford (or bother) to worm them, vaccinate them etc!!
 
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