Need help with an advert and a how much - please

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Due to a change in circumstances I need to sell my gelding sooner rather than later. Can you please let me know how much you would price him at and help with wording an advert?

Facts - 7yo, 16.3hh, grey TB gelding by Accondy.

Good points - loves jumping, good straight paces/movement, hacks out alone/company, fast learner and very intelligent. Competed unaff ODE and been out SJ schooling with previous owner . Been brought on slowly and has an extremely low "milage"

Bad points - He cribs but this has reduced significantly now he has settled a bit more. He wears a miracle collar in the stable and nothing in the field (these can go with him). He is very clever and if not shown who is the boss from the start he will take advantage (see my previous posts!). He has a small sarcoid on his neck (my vet is in the process of sending the pics to Liverpool)

I've only had him since the end of March but due to a change in circumstances I have to find him a new home. The plan was to event him and I'm gutted to have to sell him now as developed a soft spot for him. I truely believe that he is very talented with lots of scope but appreciate that most owners think that about their horses! He cut his leg in the field so has been on box rest and it's only recently that I've able to bring him back into work so he's not fully fit yet. He has a very soft mouth and was ridden in nathe snaffle and now a sweet iron loose ring lozenge bit. He's open to vetting. Needs an experienced and confident handler and a home where he will be kept busy working/thinking. The right home truely is the most important factor. In an ideal world I would prefer him to go to a competition home as I do truely think he has bags of potential (yes, I know that is the most over used word ever in adverts!) but that's not the be all and end all, his welfare and happiness is.

I don't have any recent pics (this is an old one from a few months ago but he looks better now and an old one with previous owner) of him but I will get some ridden ones this weekend. More than happy to include a L/W and couple of M/W rugs, all new in March. Both the previous owner and I would like to keep in contact with a new owner and hear how he was getting on - don't know if this would put people off!

I've been told some crazy prices and I've been told not to be so honest about his flaws. I really don't want to be anything other than 110% honest as I want him to go to the right home but how do I word it all in an advert and what price would you put him at?

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The problem I think you may be up against is there are a lot of horses for sale at the moment and people haven't got a lot of money.

He looks lovely but as he hasn't done much I would think if you want to sell him quickly in the region of £3500 to £4000.

But that is just my opion and others may think he is worth more.
 
I think you might need better conformation pics first of all - he looks quite poor in the first one (I understand he's not been worked but it doesn't show him to his best advantage). And secondly - why the hell shouldn't you be honest about him?! That's terrible advice someone has given you to gloss over his flaws - they're not huge flaws afterall and you have a solution to the cribbing...

I would say he's great to box, clip, handle, loves jumping has done X, Y and Z etc. Say also that he is intelligent and needs a competent person to deal with him otherwise he will take advantage. Then state that he does crib bite and this is reflected in the price you want for him.

He sounds like a great horse for someone who isn't concerned about the cribbing (I wouldn't be bothered). You'll only get the good home you want for him if you *are* totally honest about him - buyers appreciate that and then at least you all known where you stand!

Price wise, I'd say about the £4k mark including tack and rugs etc...
 
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he looks quite poor in the first one

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I see a healthy, unfit, horse. Good coverage of his body and neck, and slightly porky if anything.

What is your definition of poor?
 
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he looks quite poor in the first one

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I see a healthy, unfit, horse. Good coverage of his body and neck, and slightly porky if anything.

What is your definition of poor?

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Just meant he's got no muscle tone, no topline and his bum is very weak - but that's to be expected if he's not been doing anything!
 
This is what he looked like when he arrived
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The other pic was a month later, he looks much better and more filled out now (even a bit tubby). Those pics aren't the ones I would use in the advert, it was just to give you an idea of what he looks like and his conformation. He's filled out much more now, he has only been brought back into work so although his topline has improved it's still not perfect and he still needs more of a bum, although TBH I think that's his shape and he'll never have a big apple butt!
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I'll take recent pics of him standing square, ridden and jumping for the advert.

I've been told I'm too honest, would never lie about cribbing (and easy to see from the wear on his teeth anyway) but I was "advised" not to go into depth about him needing a confident and capable handler (he tries his luck and used to throw a tantrum when he didn't get his own way. This has stopped now but it might start for a while with the change of a new home etc).

Thanks for your opinions
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You can really see what he's about stripped down like that.

Doesn't have the best front legs in the world. But still a nice stamp of horse.

Good luck with selling him - hope you find him a nice home. I think he's super.
 
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You can really see what he's about stripped down like that.

Doesn't have the best front legs in the world. But still a nice stamp of horse.

Good luck with selling him - hope you find him a nice home. I think he's super.

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Thank you, do you want him
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His feet have improved, new farrier has taken back toe and he has a bit of heel now so we're getting there. Just unfortunate that time isn't on my side
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Hoping for a nice home too or else he won't be going anywhere, no idea how I hide something his size though
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Thank you, do you want him

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Would love him - but haven't got time for even one at the moment!

Don't let him go cheaply..............
 
I agree with AmyMay - don't let him go cheaply he looks like a lovely boy. sorry you have to sell him - i am sure you will find him a lovely home. Again i think £4500 any cheaper and you will get anyone ringing up.

Would you not loan him out or do you really need to sell.
 
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Would you not loan him out or do you really need to sell.

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I really need to sell, work (looking for a new job but it will take a while) are forcing me into flying down south regularly and as we rent our own yard it only leaves my mum to help when I'm not there and she doesn't keep well. He's a big lad and she won't handle him so I'm stuck
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Need to work to pay for him and I start a course in Sep which means I'm away one weekend a month
 
Oh what a horrible situation! I'd love to say I would have him but I don't have the time either. I am sure you wil find him a lovely home. Good luck.
 
I think he's a lovely horse, though I always have done. Really hope he finds a lovely home which he can thrive in as someone is definitley going to have a lot of fun with him.
 
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I think he's a lovely horse, though I always have done. Really hope he finds a lovely home which he can thrive in as someone is definitley going to have a lot of fun with him.

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Don't worry, he won't be going anywhere other than a good home
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