Neue Schule bits

[SueAllen]

Trying the trans lozenge universal gag and the tranz lozenge pelham for 30 days when they arrive. Anyone any experience of these?

 

[KatB]

Yep, i use the snaffle which is great. Havent used the pelham, but found the universal fab with a curb strap. What are you trying them for? Any particular problem or just as a new solution (if that makes sense?!)

 

[connemaras]

o i have heard bout that bit, have they got a web-site??

 

[mrussell]

I use them for our exracer and for my own horse...and they are excellent value for money. Well made and, unlike the KK bits, dont pinch!!

 

[SueAllen]

Well they are looking like a good option for my strong into fences horse who has been previously ridden in a jointed dutch gag but my trainer recommended a Dr Bristol and he gets on well with that on the flat. He jumps well enough in it too but still storms his fences. Returning to the gag just makes him throw his head up so I am hoping the universal can give me a bit of braking without drama! The pelham may well be too strong and not good for jumping but as it is only a fiver to trial them for a month I thought I would give it a go. I am very inexperienced at bitting so I do hope I'm going down the right route. I do have my trainer to advise me and the lady at the online bit shop was VERY helpful - speaking to her tonight I will have the bits by tomorrow! Do you think I might cause him any problems by trying different bits? I do try to ride him very sympathetically in anything new. Luckily he is a bit of an old hand and just gets on with it!!

 

[Tangaroo]

Sorry for butting in on this thread. I just wondered if the universal gag with the back strap would be less severe than a normal dutch gag. My horse is very strong in between fences although fine going into them. He hates the pressure of a dutch gag, that is too severe. I tend to ride him in a rubber pelham but he gets on his forehand. He is well schooled and has over 50 BD points, but he has foot problems and therefore cant jump too often. I would just like to have more control when i do jump him. He also goes in a waterford but is too strong for XC in that. Any suggestions gratefully received.

 

[KatB]

Its excellent for pullers, and I much prefer it to dutch gags as it disperses (sp) the pressure from there mouths a fair amount. Alot of strong horses are actually trying to pull against a stronger bit, so the universal works well because there is a smaller amount of poll and mouth pressure, before it gets moved to the jaw which generally makes them relax the jaw a bit and lessens resistance. With the lozenged mouthpiece it also means theres a "nicer" action on the mouth than a single nut cracker.
To see if your horse reacts favourably to the curb acion, and if your using a dutch gag anyway, maybe worth putting a curb strap on the top ring of the dutch gag, as it will have a similar action to the universal, the universal will just be slightly softer.
Hope that helps!!

 

[Tangaroo]

Thanks will give it a try.

 

[flyingfeet]

I really like Neue Schule bits

I use a 9cm shanked lozenge pelham on our mare (pulls like a train!) this stops her from fixing and allows more feel than a straight pelham.

I also use a NS Jumper bit on my main SJ'er, he doesn't like continental type gags. They move too much in the mouth for him, but the Jumper is a good little bit for him.

I also use the snaffles for schooling, and the team up has proven to be really good for my baby. I can happily school with just a cavesson, as he never opens his mouth to evade this. Yet in other bits have been seeing his tongue hanging out - finding your horse the 'right' bit makes a world of difference!

 

[_jetset_]

Hi, I use the verbiband (sp?) snaffle and the bradoon and weymouth in my double. Hannah really like them... I was going to shell out for a sprenger but someone told me to try these first as they are cheaper and very similar. Was quite impressed...

 

[KatB]

Was your baby funny about tongue pressure? Been looking at one for my baby as hes ridden in the tranz at the mo, but fiddles alot. He liked the Myler comfort but it was slightly too fixed for him, so was wandering if the team up would give him enough tongue room to keep him happy.... ??!