wessexyeoman
Well-Known Member
We are seriously considering building an indoor arena to add to our facilities. has anyone succeeded recently and how was the planning permission saga??
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new indoor arena - planning etc
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airedale
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there have been a few successes in nag and dog over the last 6 months.
1. Get a professional planning consultant. If you are in the south I can recommend someone excellent. If not then contact the NFU if you are a member and they will give you contacts for agri-equestrian specialist. Do NOT attempt the application by yourself.
2. you will have to supply lots of things like grading, etc. and if you are in the Green Belt, AGLV, AONB, National Park or similar then you probably stand the proverbial snowballs chance in hell.
3. Bear in mind that whilst you could ask you 'friendly' planning dept. for advice - they LIE LIE LIE - do NOT ask them - however you can review your local planning policies on your local council website - look at them and digest.
4. Then goto your county website and look at the county planning statements from which your local ones are supposed to be developed
5. then goto the odpm.gov.uk website and look at PPG2 and PPS7 - PPG2 is Green Belt and PPS7 is Development in the Countryside - supercedes PPG7 and PPS7 is more horse friendly.
6. Consider traffic/highways issues as if you are going to have more use then they could turn you down if access is difficult, etc
7. you could end up with a condition allowing you the indoor school and prohibiting you from using it for shows or external people - planning is devious when it comes to conditions
8. bear in mind the business rates you will have to pay !!!!!!
1. Get a professional planning consultant. If you are in the south I can recommend someone excellent. If not then contact the NFU if you are a member and they will give you contacts for agri-equestrian specialist. Do NOT attempt the application by yourself.
2. you will have to supply lots of things like grading, etc. and if you are in the Green Belt, AGLV, AONB, National Park or similar then you probably stand the proverbial snowballs chance in hell.
3. Bear in mind that whilst you could ask you 'friendly' planning dept. for advice - they LIE LIE LIE - do NOT ask them - however you can review your local planning policies on your local council website - look at them and digest.
4. Then goto your county website and look at the county planning statements from which your local ones are supposed to be developed
5. then goto the odpm.gov.uk website and look at PPG2 and PPS7 - PPG2 is Green Belt and PPS7 is Development in the Countryside - supercedes PPG7 and PPS7 is more horse friendly.
6. Consider traffic/highways issues as if you are going to have more use then they could turn you down if access is difficult, etc
7. you could end up with a condition allowing you the indoor school and prohibiting you from using it for shows or external people - planning is devious when it comes to conditions
8. bear in mind the business rates you will have to pay !!!!!!
wessexyeoman
Well-Known Member
thanks, airedale, for this. I am in the unusual situation of being very famiiar with planners' quirks as i have a number of properties and ventures in one southern village, all of which I had to fight the planners for.
Fortunately, i have an existing equestrian competition centre - though clearly it's outdoor, and it's busy, so much of what you have kindly suggested I can already defeat the planners on. I can beat them on traffic - we have a BE event with rprehaps 200 lorries + cars and the village didn't even know ot was happening.
The major issue, I am certain, is the erection of the structure itself - in 'open countryside'.
An example of the planners' previous madness is when we applied for the outdoor arenas, they said that it was development more suited to an 'edge of town' location, even though their own structure plan said - redundant farms should be considered very suitable venues for equestrian ventures!!
I suppose what I am looking for is what people have exrperienced with regard to the 'indoor school' itself in countryside that is not, fortunately, designated AONB or anything else. I know that one person had to make the end of his building look like a house so that joe public would not know that there was a huge structure behind it. That sort of idea I can live with, but I suspect there are some really mad quirks out there that others have been victims of, and am hoping to have answers to these as the planners come up with them.
Grateful for the advice, I will go to NFU (member).
Fortunately, i have an existing equestrian competition centre - though clearly it's outdoor, and it's busy, so much of what you have kindly suggested I can already defeat the planners on. I can beat them on traffic - we have a BE event with rprehaps 200 lorries + cars and the village didn't even know ot was happening.
The major issue, I am certain, is the erection of the structure itself - in 'open countryside'.
An example of the planners' previous madness is when we applied for the outdoor arenas, they said that it was development more suited to an 'edge of town' location, even though their own structure plan said - redundant farms should be considered very suitable venues for equestrian ventures!!
I suppose what I am looking for is what people have exrperienced with regard to the 'indoor school' itself in countryside that is not, fortunately, designated AONB or anything else. I know that one person had to make the end of his building look like a house so that joe public would not know that there was a huge structure behind it. That sort of idea I can live with, but I suspect there are some really mad quirks out there that others have been victims of, and am hoping to have answers to these as the planners come up with them.
Grateful for the advice, I will go to NFU (member).
airedale
Well-Known Member
very good luck
It's lovely when you beat the planners
I have just retired from the 'fray' having beaten them 5-nil over 9 years and now have everything I need.
However as you say - you do get to the point at times where you feel like going down to the planning office with a shotgun and 'going postal' as the Americans would say ;-)
My tally included a full libel case against my ward councillor, which I also won - tee hee
It's lovely when you beat the planners
I have just retired from the 'fray' having beaten them 5-nil over 9 years and now have everything I need.
However as you say - you do get to the point at times where you feel like going down to the planning office with a shotgun and 'going postal' as the Americans would say ;-)
My tally included a full libel case against my ward councillor, which I also won - tee hee