New Le Lion Selection Policy

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"Britain, as all other countries, has been allocated three places in the 6 year old class and 5 places in the 7 year old class at the Young Horse Championships at Le Lion d’Angers 2007. The qualifications in 2007 will be the same as for 2006, a minimum of a CIC* for the 6 year olds, and the normal qualification as per the FEI rules for a CCI** for the 7 year olds.

All riders/owners wishing to be allocated one of the places at Le Lion d’Angers on 18th - 21st October must notify the BE international department in writing by 20th July.

6 year olds will be asked to compete in the CIC* at Gatcombe on 15th - 16th September where the best British horse in the top five will get an automatic place at Le Lion. The other two places will be held as wild cards for the riders representing Great Britain in the European Championships in Pratoni, or any other horse/rider combination that has had results that warrant selection for Le Lion providing the horse is qualified.

7 year olds will be asked to compete in the CIC** at Gatcombe on 15th - 16th September. The two best placed British horses in the top ten will get an automatic place at Le Lion. The other three places will be held as wild cards for the riders representing Great Britain in the European Championships in Pratoni, or any other horse/rider combination that has had results that warrant selection for Le Lion providing the horse is qualified.

If no horse fulfils the above criteria the guaranteed places will be used as wild cards as well.

Should the senior selectors not use any of the wild cards the places will go to the next best placed British horse in either the CIC* or CIC** regardless of their placing.

The senior selectors would like to emphasise that horses for wild cards will be judged on the quality of their rounds, not the quantity of runs.

The senior selectors reserve the right, in exceptional circumstances, to make changes to the above selection policies but should this be the case will endeavour to notify to everyone concerned."

What do you think? Interesting for sure.....
 
Bugger.. well there goes my plan, of being one of the few to take mine abroad to do a CIC* therefore being one of the few to qualify, therefore getting a place!
Oh well, i can keep dreaming!!

Tigers_eye.. you still going for it??
 
I'm guessing that you will have to be a professional to get the wild card places, and your horse will be assessed by the selectors. pretty tough for mere mortals to get in! Unless you kick ass at Gatcombe!
 
exactly, and there's no way we'll kick any ass at Gatcombe, apart from maybe our own
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My only hope before, was to be the only one qualified haha.. bang goes that plan!
Oh well.
 
marry a china man/greek/ icelander and ride for them girl and you are in!! Otherwise it will be the great and famous as usual! However i think that by exactly stating where the 'final' trial will be at least everyone knows what they are aiming at. obviously the wild cards will go to who is currently favourite but thats life. I think clearly stating how its going to be is much fairer and quite frankly if you are going to le lion for either section, you would want your horse to have jumped a decent track and it also means there is one more of the elusive CIC* to help the mere mortals get qualified with!
 
Well at least BE has seen sense and put on a CIC* - now how many do you think are going to get balloted?! It's good for you and Sula though isn't it MdM? Yes, that sounds reasonable to me, although does the autumn gatcombe have the same hills as the British Champs? Just thinking that I wouldn't want to race W round a course that hilly, especially if the ground is on the hard side. It shouldn't be a combined training though. W will have to pull his socks up with the dressage if we're to get in the top five though! Oh, and re the marrying - I'm not sure a Swede would make selection any easier - they're pretty hot too! My ex was Bulgarian.... now that would have made selection easy! Perhaps there is a niche market for an introduction agency for British lady event riders and handsome, preferabley solvent, men from exotic locations?!
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Do you think this CIC* will only be for the combinations who have registered their interest at competing at Le Lion? I agree.... I need to focus my attention on guys from far exotic european locations.... never mind the language barrier!
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BE dont have the power to restrict FEI comps to particular riders so will be open to all. I will probs aim for it with my 6 yr old, though not as a le lion contendor!
 
The Autumn Gatcombe is not that hilly certainly shouldn't take too much out of the horses. There was nearly 120 in CIC** last year so wouldn't think anybody would have trouble getting a 6 year old in the CIC* I suspect a fair few older horses will be balloted out though.

I think it is good that BE are at least making their selection policy clear at this stage in the season - at least everyone knows where they stand.
 
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The Autumn Gatcombe is not that hilly certainly shouldn't take too much out of the horses. There was nearly 120 in CIC** last year

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yes it was a huge section and only about 50 got round clear it was carnage!! Lets hope the princess royal doesnt get quite so ambitious when designing the one star!
 
After quickly reading the bit in H&H yesterday regarding the Winter sunshine tour in Portugal - wouldnt that be worth going to instead?
If the selection is gonna be that difficult to get for Le Lion, perhaps Portugal could be the next best bet?
They run for four weeks with the option to compete at four events ranging from PN to CCI**.

Surely for the likes of MdeM and T_E this might be an option as you will have horses at those levels?

Even Im tempted
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might be able to pick up a Portuguese guy on the way
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I thought the CIC** was fair particularly when you consider you need to use this as a qualification for an advanced and a 3 day. Saying that when I walked it I thought it was huge but we were one of the ones to jump it clear.

You have got to ask questions at this level and to be honest I would prefer the jumping part counts rather than it becomes a dressage competition.
 
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What they have closed already for next year?
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As I say, could be imagining it, be worth speaking to BE though. I quite fancy Portugal!! I think the barocca things will be available
 
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I thought the CIC** was fair particularly when you consider you need to use this as a qualification for an advanced and a 3 day. Saying that when I walked it I thought it was huge but we were one of the ones to jump it clear.

You have got to ask questions at this level and to be honest I would prefer the jumping part counts rather than it becomes a dressage competition.

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Yes you do need to be challenged but this 'being asked questions' is such a cliche. A CIC** is an international INTERMEDIATE and therefore should be int level with one or two additional fences. I am very glad sarah jane, that yours was one of the clear ones but the corner combinnation was hideous, i didnt see a single horse jump that fluently, as was the angled hedges before that, the step up to log thing into the woods, the bounce out of the woods and the water wasnt that fantastic either. Any course that doesnt get more than 50% round has something wrong and when you look at the people on the floor or with significant faults, you cant blame it on inexperience riders or horses. The Int track at the same event was fair enough and what you would expect for the level, which is why the size and complexity of the 2** was such a nasty surprise to a great many people.
 
Its crazy as now all you need now to do a CIC** is one intermediate which imo is silly, as most CIC** I have done in 06 have been of a 'fair' size and standard which is what you would expect as a stepping stone to a CCI** or advanced. They should toughen the Qual up so you need at least two intermediates/CCI* to do one then maybe people won't be so shocked with the standard of a CIC** and there would be more completions. Gatcombe seemed to be a typical 2* competition to me, nothing I haven't encountered at that level, but like you said to much for the inexperienced, hence why people should gain more intermediate experience before tackling one.
 
i think we are neatly back to the old subject of standardising the level of difficulty at each level! i do agree that if CIC** are going to be practically advanced then ther should be more int runs required to qualify. As it happens ours had been clear XC at several including Hambledon and Brightling both of which are tough enough as well as a CCI* and i nearly fainted when i walked the course with the rider at Gatcome!.it was by far the most difficult test of the the level that i have seen, Somerley park for example, was no comparison and at Burnham Market there were some fair sized fences but not the difficult combinations. And south of England the week after gatcombe was decent but plenty more completed in good style.
 
It would be an excellent first Intermediate for you. It is my favorite asks some questions but a really galloping bold course. We are doing it as our first event year.
 
i think the regular int is fair enough, somerley park probably nicer for first one and about same time but you never know for sure who knows what the varmits get up to with course building during the winter!!
 
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