Newborn foal abandoned by mother...looks like yet another case of over breeding

sadly i agree - how many more times do we have to see this. when will ppl sit up and say "hey im not breeding from this mare" or "im going to stop running this colt on moors" sit up the horse world and take responsibilty for what is happening (not aimed at everyone btw before i upset ppl) . It has to stop and quick - i thought many years ago i had seen the worst man could inflict on our horses. now? nope im seeing worse :( but little oliver my arms are round you tonight little one xxxx
 
I heard a shocking story about an auction where a mini mare and foal were put in the ring. The buyer wanted the mare but not the foal so the foal was picked up and thrown back onto the lorry!
 
How you can say that is *******s, a madame mare is just as likely to reject a foal as one that has had foals before,
 
Ah, so maybe not so much "abandoned by mother" as "abandoned by owner". Poor thing - get your colts/stallions snipped and your mares under control ppl!
 
and controversially.....do not spend hard won charity money working so hard to preserve unwanted life that will go on to cost hundreds if not thousands of said money for very little...?
 
Bedlam, I have to totally agree with you hence why I will not donate to any animal charity, horrid though that sounds but they waste such stupid amounts of other peoples' money on hopeless and useless cases.
 
I absolutely agree with the principle of not encouraging indiscriminate overbreeding - I've got 2 rescue shetlands myself, one that was the H&H Forum "Christmas Day Plea" when she and 2 others were carted off to the abattoir with a load of sheep for slaughter as "surplus to requirements". The principle is sound but where oh where is the compassion when faced with an individual case? Should we all look the other way then? Is there no room for humanity on a case by case basis? You change hearts and minds by education education education not by a stony refusal to face up to reality. If anyone knows where the foal is that got slung back in the lorry, please let me know. Somebody on this bloody planet has to try to make amends for the god-awful inhumanity that people inflict on horses, whilst still trying to find effective ways to EDUCATE to stop it happening in the future.
 
Bedlam said:
and controversially.....do not spend hard won charity money working so hard to preserve unwanted life that will go on to cost hundreds if not thousands of said money for very little...?
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Surely that applies to every single horse... lets face it, they contribute very little and cost an arm and a leg - so by your logic we should all save a bit of cash and time, and shoot the lot of them as soon as they come out. After all, exactly what use is any horse in the UK now? Hardly any of them are truly 'working' animals, the majority of them are glorified pets.
 
Such a sad story, as others have said I expect this is being repeated up and down the country too. There's no easy solution either.
 
Spain has a policy of destroying every animal thats seized as part of a neglect case. They argue that the reason for it is to prevent the animal's in question from ever being neglected again.
You have to wonder if they have a point?
 
As far as I know, Spain doesn't have the same rehoming infrastructure that we do in the UK. There are problems here, but certainly the better charities are well placed to make sure the horses they rehome will not be neglected again. One of the nicest horses I ever rode had been rescued from neglect, would probably have been shot by some of the people on here, but with time and proper rehabilitation she was a lovely mare, and is sadly missed.

Contributing to a charity is a strictly voluntary activity, presumably the people who contribute to this charity are aware that their money will be spent on cases like these, and would rather the money was spent rather than being kept in a big heap and gloated over in a Smaug-like fashion? I am not one for preserving life at all costs, but if this little one has a good chance of making it then go for it and good luck to them I say.

As a general point, my dog probably cost the charity that took him in a lot of money, of course, other than saving me from a nervous breakdown, allowing me to meet some brilliant people I would otherwise never have known existed and opening some whole new fields of interest up to me, he has contributed very little so should probably have been PTS...
 
Box_Of_Frogs said:
I absolutely agree with the principle of not encouraging indiscriminate overbreeding - I've got 2 rescue shetlands myself, one that was the H&H Forum "Christmas Day Plea" when she and 2 others were carted off to the abattoir with a load of sheep for slaughter as "surplus to requirements". The principle is sound but where oh where is the compassion when faced with an individual case? Should we all look the other way then? Is there no room for humanity on a case by case basis? You change hearts and minds by education education education not by a stony refusal to face up to reality. If anyone knows where the foal is that got slung back in the lorry, please let me know. Somebody on this bloody planet has to try to make amends for the god-awful inhumanity that people inflict on horses, whilst still trying to find effective ways to EDUCATE to stop it happening in the future.
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Thank you - for some reason this brought tears to my eyes.
 
Please don't think that I believe nothing should be rescued. I would not have Stiggy were that the case!
BUT, in the current climate, with charities pushed to the limit, the crisis in Ireland spilling over to here, and GOOD horses struggling to find a home, what are that little scraps chances?
Section A's are over bred, unwanted and colts more so. They are the equine version of staffies very sadly.
 
Dragon driving is awash with then- here's one example:
'3 Coloured Colt Foals
Three two year old colt foals. Passsported microchipped.

Price for all three

Price: £100 for all three'

Poor things:mad:
 
horsesatemymoney said:
Dragon driving is awash with then- here's one example:
'3 Coloured Colt Foals
Three two year old colt foals. Passsported microchipped.

Price for all three

Price: £100 for all three'

Poor things:mad:
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Yes - and the problem with colts is the cost of gelding and then the subsequent low price when they are sold on. I sold a nice 2 yr old NF last year for a third of the price of his gelding, never mind the cost of keeping, vaccinating, microchipping, farrier and training :(
 
joeanne said:
Spain has a policy of destroying every animal thats seized as part of a neglect case. They argue that the reason for it is to prevent the animal's in question from ever being neglected again.
You have to wonder if they have a point?
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I think they do have a very good point. I honestly think that animal charities should primarily exist to fund neutering and euthanasia.

I believe that you should legally be required to hold a licence for any entire animal having passed some sort of regulated course. It should be an offence to own an entire animal without the required qualification/licence.

Any unwanted animal should, regrettably, be pts.

By offering animals for rehoming we are all unwittingly supporting irresponsible breeding. If the rehoming 'market' didn't exist we may be able to control what is bred a little better. If someone wants a dog - they have to go to a licensed breeder - there wouldn't be an alternative.....
 
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