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Does anyone else have this problem?
Mine has no sire or dam either!
Does anyone know how to find out any of this?
Will try and post a photo of him for all of you to have a guessing game :)
 
Unless you have something to go on i.e. you know who the sire or the dam is then you dont have much chance in finding out the breeding. If you can get hold of previous owners and try and track dopwn the horses breeder then you will be able to find out for certain what he/she is?

I have a mare who was abandoned, (shes an arab) however I know nothing about her breeding so we had to apply for a Petplan passport. I would like to have registered her with the arab society but cant because she has unknown breeding. You can have bloodtests done to trace her parentage but then again you still need a breeding line to go on as there are endless possibilties. :(
 
agree with above...unless you can back track through all her previous owners, and find the breeders, it's unlikely you'll be able to trace her parentage.

It's not end of the world though...one of my mares is 'unknown' on her breeding - doesn't stop her being a sweetheart though!
 
Depends which passport you have. If it's only a HPA one then it won't show breeding at all. The theory behind this is if the breeder knows the breeding that they should register with a breed society who can verify the breeding from documents needed when the foal is first registered. If you can't verify the breeding it should go in the odds and sods of HPA. Verification means a valid covering certificate and a copy or a record (passport) of the mare's breeding too; DNA only helps if both parents are registered and on record although I believe you can DNA for type (breed) too not just parentage.
 
My Haflinger's passport is the same all unkown. After 6yrs of owning him I decided to do some investigating managed to get a number of the 1st owner on the passport & rang her. She couldn't tell me anything regarding his family as she was a dealer & bought him of a dealer as an unbroken 5yr old. I did have a nice chat with her tho about his background from when she had him & I was really shocked specialy when she told me she ended up putting him in a market due to being dangerous to ride & she thought he would end up getting past from pillar to post :eek: so glad I got him as he will never go anywhere. So I agree with others try tracing the 1st owner if it's on the passport :)
 
This is the same as George's passport, all unknown, but the first owners in his passport were his breeders. I sent them a letter and when I'd all but given up hope they phoned me and were able to tell me his sire and dam and his breeding (bit of a mix of appoloosa, shire, tb and welsh d!), and also that his grand sire was the racehorse Mummy's Pet. They later on also sent me photos of his sire and dam, unfortunately they didn't have any pictures of baby George :( but it was so lovely to find out so much about him.

So it's well worth a try - good luck.
 
moodymare123 said:
Does anyone else have this problem?
Mine has no sire or dam either!
Does anyone know how to find out any of this?
Will try and post a photo of him for all of you to have a guessing game :)
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Can't see it as a problem, so long as you have a horse you are happy with does it matter how it's bred.? The only benefit would be if you wanted to breed from the horse, a passport is only there to stop certain people eating contaminated meat after all. Pure breds are registered with their relevant society & have a number.
 
I did the same as gorgeous george. Barney came over from Ireland with a white passport with no name or breeding. I wrote a letter to the person the passport was issued to and included a recent picture of him. He called me straight away and he was his breeder. He's by an skewbald ISH mare Diamond Paintwork and his grand sire is Westside Mirah a connemara jumping stallion!
 
I went to view a horse pegged as a Frisian x Clydesdale, I said that I wondered who’d decided to put them together at stud and the owner admitted that she’s put that on the advert as ‘that’s what she guessed’ she might be. Horse turned out to be nothing more than a small black cob (so apart from being black and feathered had nothing in common with either of the above breeds!)

There’s no shame in having unknown breeding, my horse is ridiculously well bred but it doesn’t make him perfect (it makes him pretty but that’s about it!)
 
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