Northern Inuit Dog

[severnmiles]

Hi,

Does anyone else have one of these? I have a 12week old pup that I got just before Christmas, shes a nightmare at the moment and thinks its great fun to 'beat up' the terriers, they think she is some kind of woman!!

 

[lordflynn]

Is it the same breed as an Eskimo dog? If so, they're pretty specialised-are you going to work her?
Only have experience of huskies I'm afraid but they dont always get on with other breeds.

 

[severnmiles]

They are a wolf lookalike breed. Huskies are lovely I'm a big fan and would love to get into the racing but what with the horses I don't have a great deal of spare time. Do you work yours? I may go and watch at Pembrey.

 

[lordflynn]

I dont have my own huskies. I used to work someone elses (3 winters) and thought very long and hard about getting a pair. I decided against it-I now have a beardie X and an Irish Setter and have just bought a horse so no time for huskies! I'm a big fan of the breed (Siberians) but they're so specialised!
Can you post some pics? It would be great to see her!

 

[Fairynuff]

Lock your hens up.Sorry, dont like them and their cousins.Bloody minded sods. Mairi. Ps, good luck.

 

[severnmiles]

My hens go quite wild when they see her, I think they think shes a grey fox or something! Why do you not like them?

 

[Enfys]

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I may go and watch at Pembrey.

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They have husky racing (whatever) at Pembrey?

WHEN?

We would definately go to see that, would make a change from being bored rigid watching skiing lessons! *Scurries off to find a Pembrey site*

 

[Cyrus]

Inuits are cross breeds they are made up of a cross between an Alaskan Malamute, German Shepard and the Siberian Husky

They are as far as I am aware unable to be worked in any breed rallies such as SHCGB, BSHWA or AMWA

A lot are being sold as wolf hybrids (which they are most certianly not) for high prices

Parents aren`t health tested (hips scored and eye tested) and the breed can`t be registered

I hope you didnt pay an extortionate amount for her

 

[severnmiles]

Saturday 4th and Sunday 5th Feb. Its in the forest.

 

[severnmiles]

No malamute, husky or gsd have been introduced for ALONG time. The breed group are trying to get recognition with KC, but I guess this may take time. Yes some people were trying to sell them for thousands as wolf hybrids but many breeders make you sign a contract whereby you cannot sell the pup on to prevent this. The Inuit dog is unable to work under the sibe accossiation but there are groups that will allow them to run in open classes.

Parents are hip scored e.t.c and before any bitch or dog are allowed to be bred from they are for want of a better word 'graded' so that the breeds standard remains high.

 

[Cyrus]

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I may go and watch at Pembrey.

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They have husky racing (whatever) at Pembrey?

WHEN?

We would definately go to see that, would make a change from being bored rigid watching skiing lessons! *Scurries off to find a Pembrey site*

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Check out www.snopeak.com for all UK rallie dates there could be a few near you.....its great fun

 

[Cyrus]

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No malamute, husky or gsd have been introduced for ALONG time. The breed group are trying to get recognition with KC, but I guess this may take time. Yes some people were trying to sell them for thousands as wolf hybrids but many breeders make you sign a contract whereby you cannot sell the pup on to prevent this. The Inuit dog is unable to work under the sibe accossiation but there are groups that will allow them to run in open classes.

Parents are hip scored e.t.c and before any bitch or dog are allowed to be bred from they are for want of a better word 'graded' so that the breeds standard remains high.

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You must be one of the lucky few whos breeder health tested their bitch and used a health tested sire unfortunately at the moment there is no mean score for hip testing so at the moment we do not know what is a good score and what is not

It will be a very longtime before the KC recognise them as a breed, if they ever do as the "breed" for which I use the term loosely has a very poor standard with bitches and dogs having a minimum hight and no upper hight level.
Also if you look at pictures of the "breed" you see no certian "type" amongst them

Some breeders are taking this breed seriously most are not and the KC will not start to think about recognising them as a breed until more health tests are done and breeders are stricter concerning selecting breeding stock to try and get the dogs to breed to type IMO these will always just be cross breeds with a fancy name

This breed was bred for its looks and looks alone breeding crossbreeds for their looks alone is wrong

Also the people who started this breed are now calling them two different names the Northern Inuit and the Utonagon why have one breed with two different names who are both trying to get them recognised seperatly as a KC breed

 

[Enfys]

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Saturday 4th and Sunday 5th Feb. Its in the forest.

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Thankyou, but just my luck, I have to be in London that weekend!

 

[severnmiles]

The Utonagon is not the same as the Northern Inuit. A Utonagon has collie in it.

Whether the KC recognise them as a breed or not is not the be all and end all as they are growing in popularity and draw alot of attention which is great for the breed.

 

[Cyrus]

A breed artical in "Our Dogs" states that the Utonagon is A malamute, Husky and GSD and contains no collie

This breed is mostly growing in popularity through puppy farmers who sell them on as wolves or wolve crosses so idiots will buy them thinking they are hard walking round with a wolf on the end of their lead and they pay stupid prices for them :banghead:

 

[Onyxia]

have to agree with you on this one.sad for breeders who are breeding responsably and working towards recognition but i dont belive they will get it simply because of the amount sold through puppy farms.can never understand the macho "well hard " dog fetish-my OH doesnt want me to buy a girlie looking dog (seems to mean anything with a long coat!) so we will be going for one of the "hard" dogs, but OH understands its a family pet, same as any other breed.
conformation, health and temprement(not necessrally in that order) are what need to be breed for, not the look.

 

[KJI_Lover]

Is this a dog for Northern chavs?

 

[houndly]

The people I share a cottage with, have got one. He is lovely but very boisterous. He is just over 1 year old.
My one dog plays with him but he is just too much for the other as he constantly barges into him.
He appears quite intelligent and goes to dog training classes. I think he would be very hard to manage if he didnt have training.
He also appears to have a strong hunting instinct and has stalked and caught little birds in the paddocks.
He isnt my cup of tea, but then, each to his own.

Btw, there is a growing sport called canicross where the owner runs with the dog, the husky types are doing very well in that. It can be competed in just for fun, or competitively.
Here is a link to their website:
http://www.cookhosting.co.uk/mysharedaccounts/dogsports/cc_index.htm

 

[Sansorrella]

I am a Northern Inuit Breeder and chairperson of the NI Society. I can assure everyone that there are no 'puppy farmers' among the Societies approved breeders - therefore if there is anyone out their puppy farming then the puppies will NOT have the correct paperwork. Northern Inuits are registered with the NI Society and we have a database where we have more detailed records and information than the KC requires. I am in constant communication with the KC and it WILL only be a matter of time before we are recognised. There is a distinct type now and the approved breeders are only breeding from the very best and from this year ALL breeding stock will have to be health checked and conform to certain criteria before being allowed to be bred from. They are NOT bred purely for their wolfy looks - temperament is very important. They are very affectionate dogs, very intelligent but are not a novice owners dog - they do need early socialisation and training and providing an owner is prepared to put in the ground work they will have a very obedient dog that is a pleasure to own and the envy of all. Unlike Huskies Northern Inuits can and must be let off lead and they do recall. Although very boisterous in play they are not aggressive and get on with all dogs, usually submitting when challenged. They are not a guarding breed. The breed was started over 18 years ago, when the original dogs were a mix of Inuit type dogs, Sibes and Mals with GSD put in to make them trainable. For many many years now there has been a sufficiently large genepool to allow NI to be bred stictly to NI - in fact we do not allow the crossing of NI with any other breed of dog. They are not the same as Utonagans, although the early Utes were NIs - the Utes added collie, akita, belgian shepherd and other breeds and what they have now is different in appearance and behaviour to a NI - they are very nice dogs but definitely NOT the same as a NI.
Can I suggest that anyone interested in actually meeting some of these dogs or owning one gets in touch with the Society or myself and learns the facts about the breed, instead of listening to the ramblings of people who don't know what they are talking about. I welcome visitors and can talk for hours about the merits (and downfalls) of the breed. We will be having a stand once again at All About Dogs in Brentwood in May - we were very popular last year and had more visitors than any of the other breeds. Look forward to seeing you there!

 

[severnmiles]

Cyrus, I really don't think you should bad mouth the breed when you nothing about it.

I bought my pup from a reputable breeder, shes intelligent, has a lovely temperment, is fairly easy to train and very beautiful if a little(maybe alot!) mischevious, I woudn't change her for the world.

Utonagons do have other breeds in them and if you took the time to look at some of them compared with the Northern Inuit dogs then you would see they are very different.

I have not heard of any puppy farms selling Northern Inuit dogs. I don't think it goes on.

 

[Tia]

So nice to read a piece from someone who has actual facts and knowledge about this breed. Good luck with achieving your KC status - the breed sounds lovely.

 

[olakhotainuits]

good on ya sansorrella. i too, breed Northern Inuit dogs andam so sick and tired of people bad mouthing this breed,especially those who know absolutely nothing about them. all dogs started out as cross-breeds so whats the difference. As sansorrella has already said, they are not a breed for the novice owner and need a firm hand, but they are very intelligent and incredibly affectionate, their only down side is that they are really not any good as a guard dog as they would let any prospective burglar in and probably help them carry out the swag. so please, stop dissing our dogs and get more info before you have something more to say.

 

[merlindex]

I have a NI, now coming up to 4 years old, I didn't get her to pretend she was a wolf or any of that other nonsense, I had previously had GSD and Boxers and would now be hard pushed to have anything but another NI, she is big and bouncy but has the most fantastic temperament ever and is a saint with by one year old daughter and fab around the horses. She does go hunting but that is her only fault, don't knock them til you've lived with them, once you have lived with them you wouldn't swap them anyway

 

[Onyxia]

If there is money to be made then they are being bred at puppy farms-end of story.I have seen adverts from puppy farms selling these dogs, so they are being "farmed".
Any dog that has a wolf look will be wanted by owners looking for something "hard" to brag to their friends about- this has happend with every breed over the years, and the NI dog will be no exception.this is not "dissing" the breed at all-it is simpley a sad truth.any dog raised in violence will become a danger,and given the way these dogs look they will be a target for this type of owner.
To any responsable breeders reading and hoping for KC recognition-good luck.TBH i cant see it happening but if you keep up the good work maybe it will.

 

[Sansorrella]

anima - I would be interested to have any info you may have regarding puppy farmers - as I said previously no approved breeder 'puppy farms' and if this is going on then the pups don't have paperwork - sadly this goes on in any breed. However, if you do have factual evidence I would appreciate it as we would like to stop any such irresponsible breeding which will get our lovely breed a bad name. You can find my email address in my profile.

 

[Sansorrella]

There is a puppy farmer in Wales selling wolf type dogs - but these are Utonagans, not NI. This is probably who you have seen advertising - but I agree this does neither breed any good whatsoever.

I have seen pics of the puppies she is producing and basically they are appalling examples of any breed.

 

[houndly]

Are any of you NI breeders/owners from Weston-Super-Mare area? I was down there last year on the beach with a couple of hounds when a guy came up with his NI and we chatted for a bit about the breed.
Regarding breeding/puppy farming...surely there is nothing to stop someone people buying 2 with papers from different sources for breeding purposes. Or are you able to control it somehow?
When the folk I live with went to buy their pup, the breeder obviously thought a lot of his dogs but there are so many people out there who want to make a fast buck. I am not implying that is happening with NI breeders but in the future , who knows?
The people here with the NI....at first they thought of getting a dalmation and rang up about one in the paper. The breeder (yes, from Wales) arranged to meet them in a motorway service area. Other buyers turned up too. They had pups from 2 litters, one of the litters wasnt theirs even!! There were no questions asked about the type of homes they were going to - they were so obviously only interested in offloading the pups.
I guess as I am a little bit involved with homing rescue dogs, I am used to the idea of dogs being homechecked and neutered. Sadly there are many pedigrees in rescues that were totally inappropriately homed.
Anyway, enough of that..............
Why not start a thread in the pictures section to show off your NI's? I have some great pics here of my friends NI

 

[Shadowlands]

Hi, Another Northern Inuit breeder/owned by rather than owner of.
This breed of dog may look like a wolf but are far from being a wolf. Mine are great with our 7 cats although they are scared of my ponies cause my ponies don't like dogs very much. They keep well away from them although one of my bitches really likes horses, but then she also likes eating horse poo aswell as rolling in it! lol
They are great dogs to own and they really get under your skin once you have one and you then notice that they are more part of your family and your best friend in the world than just your pet dog. They understand more than most breeds, mine really fussed over me while pregnant. Always making me sit down and rest and bringing me prezzies to cheer me up, eyes all melty with 'here you go, my toy will cheer you up mum, it cheers me up chewing it!'

 

[Cyrus]

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Cyrus, I really don't think you should bad mouth the breed when you nothing about it.

I bought my pup from a reputable breeder, shes intelligent, has a lovely temperment, is fairly easy to train and very beautiful if a little(maybe alot!) mischevious, I woudn't change her for the world.

Utonagons do have other breeds in them and if you took the time to look at some of them compared with the Northern Inuit dogs then you would see they are very different.

I have not heard of any puppy farms selling Northern Inuit dogs. I don't think it goes on.

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I am not bad mouthing the breed I have met a few NI and find them very likeable dogs in not one post have I stated that I do not like this breed

I in fact researched into them as a breed I was looking into bringing into my family but found the siberian husky to be much more to my taste so yes I do know a good deal about the breed

I am going on facts presented by articles and websites in which they state that these dogs have the same breeds crossed in them the article in the 2005 "our dogs" annual being the most recent

Sansorrella I am very glad more and more breeders are breeding to a type and that more and more are being health tested this will definately go a long way towards becoming recognised by the KC to which I also wish you the very best of luck
Unfortunately like with any breed there are a lot of unscrupulous breeders out there breeding these dogs and are advertising them as being "wolf dogs" and some being "wolf crosses" unfortunately these adverts are in the places where most people looking for a family pet will look at first for a pup, the free ads and recently e-pupz and these type of adverts are catching these eyes as most think they will look hard walking their "wolf dogs"
I am sure like myself you would wish these type of dogs to be bred properly and not have below par and substandard dogs promoting the breed and unless people know where to look for a good standard and health checked dog this will continue to happen.

I would also state you should update your breed standard page on your society site as this is where many of the none KC status believers are getting their information and currently it makes the breed look to have no certian type at all

 

[Sansorrella]

Hi Houndly - what you describe is typical of a puppy farmer. No one in their right mind should buy a puppy from anyone willing to meet them on the road! Any potential owner should visit the premises where the puppies are and see them at least with the mother (as many breeders don't own the stud dog). As well as the potential owners being vetted the breeder should be vetted too! Anyone can buy a dog or bitch with papers, but if they breed NI even if they have papers for the adults they must register the puppies with the society to get paperwork for the puppies, so anything being sold without paperwork is not a registered NI and should be avoided as it is more than likely not a genuine NI. We will sort some pics out over the weekend and will put some on so people can see what we are talking about. Thank you for that suggestion.