Nosebands what's the difference?

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Following on from the flash noseband thread...

Ok call me stupid but I remember lots of cavesson nosebands when I was younger and around horses and it's only since getting back into the whole horse life that I've come accross flashes and grackles - haven't actually seen a drop in use in real life before.
I know what flashes are for but I'm a bit confused as to what the difference is between a flash and a grackle? Are they not basically for the same thing? And are drops not pretty much the same as flashes only with less pressure on sensitive areas?
Anyone care to spell it out for brain dead me? ;):D
 
Flashes were developed to enable a standing martingale to be attached to a horse's bridle that usually would take a drop.

A grakle is deliberately designed to prevent a horse crossing its jaw, as the straps are a figure of eight, so if the bottom strap tightens then so does the top.
 
Aha! Thankees :D
I was under the impression that they were all variations on the not allowing opening of the mouth/crossing the jaw theme :o Every day's a school day :D
 
Ok only just got to the studded cavessons part and already I'm slightly horrified! :eek: Can't believe people would use the serrated one on another living thing! :eek::mad:
 
Horrific isn't it. I have heard there are even machines/tools that can be used to 'tighten' crank nosebands too, a bit like machines to tighten girths. :eek:
 
What?! The crank itself sounds bad enough for being able to tighten way to far but to use some sort of gadget to get it tighter is just awful! It really makes you wonder if people who do stuff like that have completely forgotten that horses are living creatures that can feel discomfort and pain :mad:
 
amandap said:
Horrific isn't it. I have heard there are even machines/tools that can be used to 'tighten' crank nosebands too, a bit like machines to tighten girths. :eek:
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Years ago I witnessed a BHSI use her foot against her horse's jaw to get the crank noseband as tight as she wanted it. She informed me that she 'couldn't get him on the bit unless it was that tight'. :( :( :(
Drop nosebands can be magic for some horses, they don't need to be tight to be effective (must be fitted high enough though) and sit beautifully with a full-cheek bit,whereas the cheeks can catch on a cavesson.
 
I must be really old or something again this never use to be so complicated horses on bits off bits etc....All bar one or two horses out of the 20 we had were all D ring snaffle.Plain Cavessons and a couple without nose bands. It was all quite simple in the old days.
Dutch gags were a thing of horror! For really mis behaving uncontrollable unstoppable and I hadnt ever seen one used. Odd pelham /curb chain double etc but majority were plain D ring snaffle/cavesson bridle.

I do remember those awful orange rubber cheek things that would go green from fresh grass and a tooth brush to scrub them clean.

Plain is much nicer.

Gadgets!
 
kerilli said:
Years ago I witnessed a BHSI use her foot against her horse's jaw to get the crank noseband as tight as she wanted it. She informed me that she 'couldn't get him on the bit unless it was that tight'. :( :( :(
Drop nosebands can be magic for some horses, they don't need to be tight to be effective (must be fitted high enough though) and sit beautifully with a full-cheek bit,whereas the cheeks can catch on a cavesson.
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Love my Fulmer and drop - but currently hard to find a drop big enough for my Clyde X baby.
 
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