Not a rant just dont understand why

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why do people let their dogs approach dogs when there owners ask them not to, I am looking after friends beautiful Bulldog he is really gentle with children and cats etc but is terrified of other dogs to the point he will try to climb in your arms , he was rescued about 5 years ago they have tried all options to overcome his problem but no luck but 3 times I have taken him out today to have a dog owner tell me I should train him or just let him get on with it ,his first response is hide but if backed up and panicked he wil bark, I then had a mouthful of a chap saying he was dangerous because the poor dog was having a meltdown at his dog trying to hang of his face.Because his dog was playing
 
pinball said:
why do people let their dogs approach dogs when there owners ask them not to, I am looking after friends beautiful Bulldog he is really gentle with children and cats etc but is terrified of other dogs to the point he will try to climb in your arms , he was rescued about 5 years ago they have tried all options to overcome his problem but no luck but 3 times I have taken him out today to have a dog owner tell me I should train him or just let him get on with it ,his first response is hide but if backed up and panicked he wil bark, I then had a mouthful of a chap saying he was dangerous because the poor dog was having a meltdown at his dog trying to hang of his face.Because his dog was playing
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Put a muzzle on him...people will steer clear and make sure their dogs do as well.

Or...what I would do, is walk him where I was not going to encounter the idiots of the earth xx
 
I don't really think it would be possible, or fair, to muzzle a bulldog GG. I do sympathise OP, but unfortunately there seem to be a lot of idiots who own dogs. You could always try shouting to the people to keeps their dog away as yours has a highly infectious skin disease, e.g. mange, I have heard that job!
 
I have had similar problems with my daughters two very small dogs, they have been bothered by dogs, people have had no control over, enough times to make us turn into the dog carrying types that a lot of dog owners mock. They are just too precious to us, to risk them being hurt. They trust us to keep them safe. I'm not going to break that trust. I also choose where and at what times I walk them.
 
I really get angry about people ignoring their dogs and allowing them to approach an on lead dog. Surely it's clear that the dog is on lead for a reason?? I keep my werewolf on a lead plus he's trained to focus on me so other dogs don't get harassed/injured. I think it's very unfair of other owners to tell me that my dog should be allowed to play or that their dog is friendly. Mine would try to kill another dog, I need to exercise him and he's fine if left alone, he won't streak across a field to attack, but when a bouncy young ambull is in his face, yes, he'll lash out. Scream, scream, sick of other owners. I want to live in the middle of nowhere!
 
One of my lab girls is dog aggressive. She doesn't bite just upends strange dogs, if they retaliate she will fight. I only let her off lead in open areas where I can see if other dogs are about, she is walked and lives with her daughter so has dog companionship. We have a big garden so gets lots of play.

the point I'm coming to is I often road walk them and don't expect dogs off lead to approach them. one day met a lady with two dogs off lead on a narrowish lane which has quite fast traffic. Her dogs were approaching mine and I asked her to call them away as one of mine is dog aggressive. I was told in no uncertain terms that I was stupid and the dog had to learn to get on with others. She did eventually call her dogs back, I had my girls sat and trying to keep their attention on me.

I know I could muzzle, but why should I, on a road, where any dog should be on a lead.
 
A lack of smilies or pointing out that my first comment was a joke clearly failed...that's why I went on to say, "what I would do is".

Apologies op. The first comment was not a serious one and I thought that was clear, but I was wrong. I made the point because with all the will in the world, we cannot control what others do. We can spend a lifetime wishing and hoping that others would be sensible and do as we do...but it would be a lifetime of disappointment. So if you want to walk where you won't meet these people, all you can realistically do is walk somewhere else, away from them.
 
Sorry GG, thought your first comment was serious because it is sadly true that muzzling a dog does make people avoid it. You definitely need smilies for me when I am not properly awake! :)
 
I completely agree that people should have control of their dogs and definitely not allow their dog to go up to another if asked by the owner not to.

However, I think that dog would be much happier if its owner employed a behaviourist and made him more comfortable meeting other dogs.
 
do what I do when my bitch is in season avoid places where there will be other dogs.

you can get muzzles designed to fit the bull breeds and their squashed up faces without hindering breathing-not that I would suggest that as an option
 
I feel your pain, I took my friends dog to a dog show last week to do a demo, he had the bright yellow 'I need space' vest on and 2 people let there dogs jump on him (and I mean quite literally jumped on his back when he was calmly lying down) and countless people sniff him which is his biggest problem. Thankfully he was so focused that he didn't react but I swear people do it for a laugh.
 
MurphysMinder said:
Sorry GG, thought your first comment was serious because it is sadly true that muzzling a dog does make people avoid it. You definitely need smilies for me when I am not properly awake! :)
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I wasn't my normal self as wrote my first reply in a hurry so my point got kind of scrambled :) xxx
 
I am just so fed up with this. The other day I was walking my dog along our village high street when a dog shot out of its open front door and attached itself to my poor dog's neck. My dog didn't even see it coming and was terrified, it took three of us to get it off. There are at least two others around here that guard the road outside their garden - no fence - and quite frankly I am nervous about walking past. Instead of walking being a pleasure I am now at the point where I'm glad to get home unchallenged!
 
i would put a harness on which you can personalize- my boy has a julius k9 harness- you can choose clear velcro strips- some say 'reactive', 'scared' ect, or get your own made. or a coat with a message on. there is a yellow bow/bandanna, which is meant to mean to give the dog space, but not sure many know this?

sadly there are lots of stupid people, who think they are never in the wrong. my GSD, who is reactive on lead due to little socializing until we got him aged 2, met a terrier who was off lead and started barking and having a go at him. the owner just laughed saying about how he was a terrier, you know what they are like! well that is no excuse to stress my dog who I am trying to keep calm on the lead!
 
Wiz201 said:
muzzling the dog would just make him even more frightened.
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I am not convinced that a dog realises that wearing a muzzle means it cannot defend/bite itself, I feel that is a bit close to humanizing dogs but thinking they can have a thought process that works like ours.

a friend of mine was attacked whilst walking across a public park the dog was a muzzled large/giant breed and it took the owner over 4 mins to get control of the dog (it was off lead) it continued to try and bite the upper arms, chest and neck area-my frined had not even seen it coming and he knows how long it was as he was on the phone when it happened
 
twiggy2 said:
I am not convinced that a dog realises that wearing a muzzle means it cannot defend/bite itself, I feel that is a bit close to humanizing dogs but thinking they can have a thought process that works like ours.

a friend of mine was attacked whilst walking across a public park the dog was a muzzled large/giant breed and it took the owner over 4 mins to get control of the dog (it was off lead) it continued to try and bite the upper arms, chest and neck area-my frined had not even seen it coming and he knows how long it was as he was on the phone when it happened
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A dog with a muzzle on can really still hurt! For anyone that didn't see...my comment about muzzles was not serious.
 
twiggy2 said:
the hurting comment is very true my friend was rather bruised and scraped, I did see it was tongue in cheek
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Phew! Yeah...depending on the muzzle, a dog can still bite too. Cage muzzles, honestly could cause some really nasty bruising. The mesh muzzles, a dog can still nip through and a really angry dog will hurt you if they want to.
 
_GG_ said:
Phew! Yeah...depending on the muzzle, a dog can still bite too. Cage muzzles, honestly could cause some really nasty bruising. The mesh muzzles, a dog can still nip through and a really angry dog will hurt you if they want to.
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was a basket muzzle, the woman just left the field after and friend was to shaken up to do anything about it at the time
 
It is a pain in the backside I am so fed up of mine being jumped on and when he retaliates to someone's little darling it's always the same response of mine was only playing you should control yours!!! Mine is on a lead and was under control until your dog decided to attach to his neck and I am sorry but if it does not let go when I have kicked it and you do nothing I will release my dog as I can call him off as soon as he has removed your little angel from his neck
 
Same probelm with my dog. I do actually use the muzzle trick sometimes, if going to busy parks, as it makes people recall their dogs and stay away from mine. I doubt she would actually bite, but she does not like them getting in her face and will grumble if they keep running back. She's on the lead, but I feel there is a risk of escalation, all it would take is the once and we have worked so, so hard to get her comfortable around other dogs and even playing nicely with same-sized dogs. As long as they don't run staight up in her face without introduction.
 
Do any of you actively protect your dogs or children in these circumstances? Pre-empt the unwanted attention/attack? carry a stick? deliver a well aimed kick?

My bro. did, it resulted in a G.S. with concussion and a broken jaw..... it's owner had been asked several times to put it on a lead, but it just kept coming on barking towards him and my small nephew in an open field. It seemed not to have recall and so it was kicked very hard under the chin when close enough.
 
Spook said:
Do any of you actively protect your dogs or children in these circumstances? Pre-empt the unwanted attention/attack? carry a stick? deliver a well aimed kick?

My bro. did, it resulted in a G.S. with concussion and a broken jaw..... it's owner had been asked several times to put it on a lead, but it just kept coming on barking towards him and my small nephew in an open field. It seemed not to have recall and so it was kicked very hard under the chin when close enough.
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Im sorry, but I do not condone this type of violence toward any animal, not to the point it ends up with a broken jaw!!!
 
Spook said:
Do any of you actively protect your dogs or children in these circumstances? Pre-empt the unwanted attention/attack? carry a stick? deliver a well aimed kick?

My bro. did, it resulted in a G.S. with concussion and a broken jaw..... it's owner had been asked several times to put it on a lead, but it just kept coming on barking towards him and my small nephew in an open field. It seemed not to have recall and so it was kicked very hard under the chin when close enough.
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not something I would be proud of!
I have however had to use my feet to defend my dogs (I did manage not to injure the offending dog though and it was not just barking). I was walking my three dogs on a private lane, when a German shepherd that is known to me (is very dog aggressive) came down the track towards at full speed and locked on to my dogs, mine two of which are very elderly were all on lead, this dog did not slow as it approached and non of mine reacted to it (the old boys probably had no idea it was there), I remained calm so as not to provoke a negative response from my dos but my only chance at stopping this dog before it made contact was to use my feet-it did not step out towards the dog but raised my foot so the dog ran in to it-she was so surprised that she turned tail and ran-it took mine home and went round to speak to the owners-they did not know she had been out, the dog has since been destroyed as she attacked 2 other dogs resulting in surgery for one and euthanasia for the other
 
Zero00000 said:
Im sorry, but I do not condone this type of violence toward any animal, not to the point it ends up with a broken jaw!!!
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I don't condone violence to animals either, but if a loose out of control, GSD behaved aggressively towards my grandchildren, I would do what ever it took to keep them safe.
 
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