Not Novice ride - covers alot or a little?

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i've seen a lot of adverts which say not a novice ride...

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who can actually ride it?
i would say i'm neither novice nor experienced but these not novice rides range from a bit forward goin to nut job

just wondering what others consider to be not novice rides and whether other descriptions should be used more for the experienced rides?

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Ahh yes, how much I hate that phrase. Varies from not for a beginner to nobody can get near it without it attempting to kill them.
Something like "Would suit a confident rider" or "Would suit a competent novice but not complete beginner" are much more useful.
If in doubt, ring up and ask!
 
its my pet hate in adeverts.. it can mean its going to kill me if i get on it or it could mean it jsut needs bringing on.. Without going to see you wont know.


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It is a very useless phrase to be honest. If I was reading an advert I would ignore it unless they went into greater detail of how the horse rode eg not a novice ride, very spooky!

It's worth just calling them up and asking about what the horse is like. So many people call their horse not a novice ride as someone straight out of a riding school would probably not get a great tune out of them but the truth is lots of horses might not go as well with a novice rider but they wouldn't be dangerous!

My girl (pure bred Arab) used to be ridden by rather inexperienced riders, she was put up the front and knew her job so long as they could sit to a fast canter and held on as turns approached they were safe enough
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i'm not actually looking for one atm just look at whats out there, also was reading post lower down bout rearing being a vice and that just got me thinking bout it because a bad rearer i'd describe as needs experienced confident rider not "not novice ride"!!!! thanks for ur replies
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I say not novice ride for both my horses (one I am trying to sell, another to share / part loan).

One is a 5 year old who is very sensible for his age, but as he is so young, will be moulded by whatever rider gets on - and so will get into bad habits if ridden badly. He needs consistent good patient riding to learn properly until he is established. The older horse does look after a novice rider but he occasionally spooks (usually only with me!) and so I would prefer the rider to be confident and not bothered by this.

I would say that 'not novice ride' probably doesn't cover more serious vices like rearing, napping or bolting - just indicates that a horse might be hard to handle for someone a bit wobbly or nervous, and so is best avoide for both sakes.
 
Lol, I've always had problems with this phrase! I'd descrbe my lad as "not novice ride" but to be honest, he isn't nasty - he never rears, bolts and rarely bucks (never unseating) he can be spooky though and goes sideways at a rate of knots that can unseat even the best rider. But having said that I have taught complete beginners to ride on him, and he has been hacked out by total novices, albeit with me riding beside them.

I have been to see horses described as "not a novice ride" some are total angels, and just have the odd buck into canter, or a little spook. Others are completely unsafe, rear over backwards or spend the whole time tanking off. I guess when you get limited words in an ad, people find it easier to put "not novice ride" and then describe problems in detail over the phone.
 
I've often thought about how I would describle my boy if I were ever to sell him (I'm not planning on it, but I have random thoughts about all sorts of things!) I think I would say could be hacked by a novice but not novide ride for schooling/jumping as can get strong and is a bit insecure at competitions.

I think that would be a good description and would convey the truth. He's a fab hack, brilliant in traffic and very safe as long as it's not a huge group, but does get a bit stressed and strong when you ask him to actually work in a school environment and can be a bit nappy at competitions. If only other people thought about these things when thy actually are selling! I think they're concerned about getting sued so just put it down as a stock phrase - a bit like "may contain nuts"!
 
Oh, don't even get me started!!
I hate "Not a Novice Ride" its the same as "Always in a Snaffle"

Sorry but not a novice ride could mean either the horse is sane, but young, therefore a person with some experience, common sense and enthusiasum could bring it on (like ME!) or it could mean its a bit of a nut job, and you'd be insane to ride it! I wish advertisiers would be a little more clearer, as this could mean the difference between a phone call, or a flick to the next ad! I generally ignore ads that have it!

Also, "snaffle mouthed" again VERY vague.... waterford snaffle or a plain happy mouth!! HELLO!!! come on people, a little help here!!

Sorry, rant over!!
 
We discarded the advert for our old cob to start with as it said - not novice ride - but it depends what a persons idea of a novice is and how confident you are.

We went to see him and was told he can 'nick off', but we loved him and bought him home.

He was 19 when we bought him and we have had him nearly 4 years and he is super. he just gives all the time. He didnt really 'nick off' in our opinion.. he doesnt rear, buck or nap - he just sometimes goes 'fast in a straight line' haha.. and if you can cope with that you are fine..

Alwaysbroke's daughter loves him and I wouldn't swap him for the world.

We went to see a 'family horse' and it would have wiped your family out in record time.. I have ridden for 31 years and done all sorts of stupid things, but I didnt want to canter on it and couldnt wait to get off.
 
I do agree that it really tells you nothing, however I believe alot of people include it deliberately to try to put off numpties who think that after 5 riding lessons (yes, I know of two cases of precisely that) they are fit and ready to have a horse or pony of their own. A friend of mine advertised her nice arab for loan and a teenage girl answered it, swore she was an experienced rider, but once mounted was a bag of nerves, hanging onto the reins and shrieked in fear when she tried a canter.
 
I am advertising a very hot headed chestnut jumping mare, we have had her 5 years and she is now totally outgrown (138cms). The advert states 'she is a winner because she is very fast so no novices please'.
She does not buck, rear, bolt or anything naughty, she is just fizzy and fast. D you think I am putting people off?
(I have had two people come and try her, neither of them would go faster than walk)
 
When i saw an advert for my current share horse, it said "not novice ride". Now usually i wouldn't have bothered going any further than reading the advert because, i would say i am a novice but i can be slightly nervous on new horses. anyway i phoned up about him, and he was only 'not a novice ride' because he is very forward going. totally bombproof when hacking but when he see's an open space he likes to have a good ol' canter/gallop.
 
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