Numbers after names on passports - what do they mean?

Spot_the_Risk

Spot_the_Risk

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Most of my previous horses have been mongrels, but the new little lad has some verified parentage. Looking at the details, there are numbers after the stallions name, the dam and her parents too - what do they mean please, I can't work it out!

Oh, and gratuitous pic of the new boy!

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Right, BSPS spotted sport horse register passport. Colt is called Coolings Aztec Magic, and has UELN826015SSH11013M after his name. Sire is Don Carlo, E015SUPP00367ML. He is spotted, the dam and her parents are chesnut. Dam is p/b Hanoverian, Harmsworth Summertime, 6001999. Her sire was Galvano 313913278, and dam Da Vinci 1013713.

Any help or information gratefully received!
 
Spot_the_Risk said:
Right, BSPS spotted sport horse register passport. Colt is called Coolings Aztec Magic, and has UELN826015SSH11013M after his name. Sire is Don Carlo, E015SUPP00367ML. He is spotted, the dam and her parents are chesnut. Dam is p/b Hanoverian, Harmsworth Summertime, 6001999. Her sire was Galvano 313913278, and dam Da Vinci 1013713.

Any help or information gratefully received!
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Coolings Aztec Magic - is this his passport name ?
Unique Equine Life Number - 826015SSH11013M

Harmsworth Summertime - http://www.sporthorse-data.com/d?d=Harmsworth+Summertime&x=30&y=5
 
UELN is unique equine life number
Cally got there before me:)

Coolings farm have a facebook page with a photo of the stallion on it if you want to see more about him.
 
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Someone needs their hands slapping badly (not you Spot,hun)

Wondered why I couldn't find Aztec's passport details on NED and now know why.

Name of Organisation British Spotted Pony Society

UELN Prefix 826015

Address Heiffers Farm
Rackenford
Tiverton
Devon
EX16 8RW
England

Telephone, Fax
Web and E-mail Address Tel: 07774 714638
www.britishspottedponysociety.co.uk
info@britishspottedponysociety.co.uk

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Updated 22-Feb-2010

This is absolutely SHOCKING !

I would kick up a fuss about this hun
 
Here at Coolings Farm set in deepest South Devon we have decided to reignite our passion for breeding horses with Don Carlo our 15hh believed Knabstrupper stallion who is registered and licenced with The British Spotted Pony Society.

Don Carlo was born on 1st January 2004 and is orignally from the netherlands. We bought him in 2008 as an unbroken 4 year old because of his calm temperment, good conformation and wonderful spotted coat!!
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The breeders should try to trace Don Carlo's breeding
 
The BSPS homepage says it was updated yesterday unless I've missed something else?


Apart from the colt's breeder listing their spotted stallion of unknown breeding as "15hh believed Knabstrupper stallion who is registered and licenced with The British Spotted Pony Society"?
 
Its of unknown breeding but registered:confused: still unbroken WHY.
Why do they not at least try and do something with him not just breed for colour.
 
Thanks my lovelies - now I'd looked on the Sport horse data site and found nothing, no idea why, so thank you. I've met the stallion and mare, as I got the colt from his breeders - he only came to me last Sunday so I haven't sent his passport away as yet for an owners name change. I'm hoping that whatever the stallion may or not be, breeding wise, his son inherits his laid back attitude - it was really nice to meet a stallion living out with his mares, the whole lot chilled out, happy to see people but not pushy. It would be fab to find out more 'family history', maybe that will come with time - now I'm off to look into the dams breeding a bit more, you've been a great help, thankies!!
 
The stallion does not look like a Knabstrupper to me - he has more appy type.
At least your baby looks to have his mum's neck.
 
s4sugar said:
The BSPS homepage says it was updated yesterday unless I've missed something else?


Apart from the colt's breeder listing their spotted stallion of unknown breeding as "15hh believed Knabstrupper stallion who is registered and licenced with The British Spotted Pony Society"?
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They may have updated their website details yesterday but they do not appear to have updated any passport details on the National Equine Database since 2010
 
your boy is just adorable but i have looked on the breeders website and they do seem to have a rather odd bunch of mares. Just looks as though they had some riding horses who were mares then saw a pretty stallion and thought they'd breed some foals. I'm not saying that is what they did, just that their website doesnt come across very well, if you are still in contact with them maybe you could point that out to them :)

http://spottedhorsessouthwest.webs.com/
 
Spot_the_Risk said:
Thank you, yes I am in contact via Facebook. I know that the dam of my colt was a riding horse for them for quite a while.
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yes they look like lovely mares. Just think the website comes across not quite right. Just needs some rewording perhaps.

Really do love your boy though, what a cutie!! :D
 
Thanks - he's currently spending more time with my OH than me, which is great - so many horses tend to be a bit wary of men, but those two are becoming buddies. Plan is that I will ride him (not yet obviously, before someone gets the wrong end of the stick!), as he should make 16hh + he'll be big enough for OH to ride too!
 
Just going on what the breeder said! So long as he exceeds 15hh I'll be happy - he's about 13.2hh at nine months, any thoughts on what he may make? I do realise that the parents height is no guarantee of what the offspring will make - our homebred's parents were 15.1 and 14.2, and she is about 14.1 at rising five.
 
Lovely new boy spot the risk. I agree with s4sugar I don't think his dad looks like a knabby either, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was some knabby blood in there some where. I am no Knabby expert but I do have an interest in them as I own one. Knabbys are split into two main groups: classic and sports. Classic are not so tall and chunkier, and sports are finer. If you are interested in finding out more about them check out http://www.knabstruppersociety.org.uk/ for useful info. Lots of links to UK breeders and also to parent org in Denmark, as well as breeders there and in Germany. Holland doesn't seem to be a place where they breed lots of Knabbys so for me it would put a question mark over a horse coming from there being full knabbstrupper. Perhaps it came from poland via holland. Seen a similar spotted stallion advertised on line that is suppose to be a knabby and came from Polland. Some one at Knabbstrupper GB might be able to help put you in the right direction to find out if there is any knabby blood in your boy ... DNA testing perhaps. I guess it all depends on how much you want to know.

In the meantime enjoy your new boy.
 
And re the height thing ... have you checked out the threads in breeding there's quite a few about height and the string/rope test. I tried it on my own rising two year old and scared myself silly! Then went and did it on few adult horses on my yard and it seems to be right!
 
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