Odd feet on new horse... opinions please.

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Start feeding, and get a new farrier, horse may be free, but it may have issues.
100gms micronised linseed
Recommended minerals: Hoof Pro for two three months
NO molasses [eg beet nuts]
Soaked, non molassed beet flakes eg quick beet and non molasses chaff eg Dengie and hay, I would want mine inside for 4-6 hours a day eating hay ad lib.
 

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Should have said he's wearing boots all round for hacking only... as he is sore on the tracks around the yard and on the bridleways only good on smooth tarmac and grass :(

Getting there slowly I am hoping to take off the backs for hacking in the next month as these have improved so much I think they are nearly ready to go bare.
Excellent :)
 

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lovely looking horse, thank god he has found such a kind and caring home. Please keep this thread updated so we can follow your progress. Whats his name?
 

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Start feeding, and get a new farrier, horse may be free, but it may have issues.
100gms micronised linseed
Recommended minerals: Hoof Pro for two three months
NO molasses [eg beet nuts]
Soaked, non molassed beet flakes eg quick beet and non molasses chaff eg Dengie and hay, I would want mine inside for 4-6 hours a day eating hay ad lib.
Thanks Miss L Toe, he's on micronised linseed, Spillers high fibre cubes and 24/7 turn out in a big field with other horses on sparse mixed grass field, as movement is so important, so far so good we are getting on for 3 months with no shoes now and he's showing good signs of improvement already.
 

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lovely looking horse, thank god he has found such a kind and caring home. Please keep this thread updated so we can follow your progress. Whats his name?
Thank you so much what a lovely comment it's so nice to have support from others
:)

His name is Bailey (registered British Sports horse "Brother Bear").
 

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Thanks Miss L Toe, he's on micronised linseed, Spillers high fibre cubes and 24/7 turn out in a big field with other horses on sparse mixed grass field, as movement is so important, so far so good we are getting on for 3 months with no shoes now and he's showing good signs of improvement already.
High Fibre cubes are using held together with molasses, might be work a look at that. I didn't know till a feed line person asked me how did I think the cubes stayed together!
 

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The only colts/geldings reg'd by Cavalier Royale out of a Sea Crest mare were born in 1999. So he might still be 13 if he was a very late foal!

There is a mare reg'd for 2000, but co colts/geldings.

Of the colts, one is called Cavalier Crest, he has 21 registers SJI (Showjumping Ireland points, the Irish BS). His owner is reg's as Jean Morton, and his first comp was in Kill EC at 100cm with Luke Drea, then he is ridden by Jean morton, Daisy Duggan, Andrew Lyons, johhny O Connell and John Floody. His record goes form 2003 to 2005. His last comp was at 1.10m. He has 23 reg'd outings. He was bred by Mr and Mrs David Fee and dam name was Lida.

The second is called Cavacrest. He is 1999 again, owner is down as William Lapsley. he has 22 SJI points, and his record is only for 2004. He has 20 outings reg'd against him that year, ridden in all but one by Kelda Morgan, his last one by Gerard William Lehy, and he competed up to 110cms. He was bred by Patrick Gallagher and dam name is Rose Quest.

If he is neither of these, check the passport and I can look him up. There are no 'Brother Bear' 's reg'd on the system.
Does he have breeding recorded on the passport?
Sorry it's taken ages but if you're interested I had a look at the passport and he's reg'd British Sports Horse!
http://www.sporthorsegb.co.uk/horse.aspx?id=147675
 

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High Fibre cubes are using held together with molasses, might be work a look at that. I didn't know till a feed line person asked me how did I think the cubes stayed together!
Interesting... BUT I've fed to my mare (also barefoot) successfully for some time now I've also noticed elsewhere on here that they are often recommended for barefoot.

I'll keep to it at the moment as I'm not feeding enough to make a massive difference.

Thanks though definitely something to consider
 

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I have been feeding horse for racing and so on for aprrox 50 years, in the early days it was "oats, bran, chaff [THAT IS HAY WHICH WE CHOPPED] and "Equivite" for competition horse, private liveries.
One thing I noticeD when I fed cheap unbranded feeds, was that after 2 weeks they lost their "sparkle" coat and eye., thereforE I always used branded feeds.

I abandoned shoes two years ago, at this time I looked again at diet, and discovered the truth!
a horse needs minerals, minerals are expensive, therefore cheap feeds usually have less minerals.
If you look at individual feeds, branded, you will see some say "feed 1kg per day, another says "2kg"............... its all about the most expensive item........... minerals!!!!
So, the penny had dropped, buy minerals direct from specialist, and add to your fodder.
I need to tell you something important
"I FEED MY HORSE 30GMS OF MINERALS PER DAY"
and
THE COST OF THOSE MINERALS IS THE SAME AS THE COST OF THE REST OF HIS HARD FEED
THAT IS THE END OF THE MESSAGE
well I dont feed a bag of feed, I feed hi fibre plus linseed meal plus minerals
NO sugars [less than 5% in sugar beet flakes]
NO moglo/molasses
 

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Look at Rockley Farm blogs, you will find all horse have different tolerance levels, so that some need particular care, diet, managment and others need no special diet.
Many are NOT good with alfalfa, some dont mind
Many can take some molasses, some are crippled if put out on grass, and can onlt tolerate a ha based diet.
If its not broke dont fix it, all I can advise is that my horse and my ponies are all kept in top condition, and since discovering micronised linseed, and minerals I have never looked back. They get soaked fast beet, pro earth minerals and [expensive branded chaff] Dengie non molasses, lo/no alfa for texture and flavour.
My boy spends several careful minutes licking his bowl before giving me that big smile, food!!!1
 

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Hello all,

I'm not doing a very good job of taking frequent photos I'll try to remember to take some more tonight, since it's sunny now :)

If I remember I'll try to post them tomorrow!

He's feet are doing very well and we even very bravely trotted over a tiny trotting pole on Tuesday night! Whoop whoop! Next stop Badminton.... :S

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1381416_10151970010717065_1312570593_n.jpg
(No crit please I know I look terrified but I had no idea what he'd do after what the previous owner told me about him!)

Token silly photo for you just because I love him <3
https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1374860_10151947977062065_180646513_n.jpg
 

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I've been rubbish and not taken any photos again! Sorry all, I will try to I promise.

He had another trim yesterday and my lovely trimmer is shocked by how sound he is, despite how horrid his feet are still (although much less horrid than the were when he came to me!).

He's moved up a score again and he's now a 4.1 (out of 10). Yippee!!

We've also been given the go ahead to go for longer hacks and even jump up to a foot. Which after trotting the pole the last week I'm very excited about :)

Also rode him bareback for the first time last night and he was good as gold, of course :D LOVE BAILEY sooooooo much!
 

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Lovely positive post :) well done. If he's good whilst his feet are still a mess it sounds like he's going to have real old rock crunchers when they're grown out fully. Yippee...
 

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I've been rubbish and not taken any photos again! Sorry all, I will try to I promise.

He had another trim yesterday and my lovely trimmer is shocked by how sound he is, despite how horrid his feet are still (although much less horrid than the were when he came to me!).

He's moved up a score again and he's now a 4.1 (out of 10). Yippee!!

We've also been given the go ahead to go for longer hacks and even jump up to a foot. Which after trotting the pole the last week I'm very excited about :)

Also rode him bareback for the first time last night and he was good as gold, of course :D LOVE BAILEY sooooooo much!
This is such a nice story that I will forgive you for not taking pictures :D
 

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Awh shucks *turns bright pink with embarrassment* thanks everyone for your kind words it's so great to have HH folks support.

I will reward your lovely comments with more photos!!!

NS front -
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https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1384114_10151988244417065_45765161_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/562309_10151988244317065_1993929776_n.jpg

NS back -
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1395848_10151988244217065_1061563584_n.jpg
https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/10314_10151988244087065_1953675435_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1377341_10151988243817065_1727300922_n.jpg

OS front - (the one that had all the build up gunk on it)
https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1378458_10151988243672065_1626191158_n.jpg
https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1384166_10151988243477065_310008823_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1381763_10151988243382065_1781454263_n.jpg

OS back -
https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1391806_10151988243277065_1119040794_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/1385187_10151988243197065_1010349824_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1380798_10151988243067065_376691792_n.jpg

And a side by side shot of that awful gunk covered hoof just after the shoes came off and one from yesterday (looks like a different hoof!)
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1378662_10151989114567065_663700089_n.jpg

Just to remind us how it looked before...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd....206/1000084_10151775675282065_508555744_n.jpg
https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/1003270_10151775675637065_1649250952_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1001859_10151775675177065_1513756009_n.jpg
 

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Also would like to appologise - I don't have a Photobucket account and so can't put the photos on here so that you can see them without clicking on them... I will do this eventually... Sorry all!
 

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Wow Kezz, that's a hell of a difference. Well done you!!!
Thanks! I'm so pleased I decided to take the shoes off. I can't stop looking at the photos I just cannot believe the difference. When I get around to it I'll do before and after side by side pics of the other feet and the bottom of that foot too...

I'm learning so much about feet from this clever, fabulous, and amazing horse!!
 

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you don't need a pb account- you can just add
to ends of the code you are using.

Ha! OMG I didn't realise it was that easy! (durh! silly me!) thanks so much! (Will do that next time as not sure I can edit it the post now).

Thanks for that, you learn something new everyday!
 

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NS front -




NS back -




OS front - (the one that had all the build up gunk on it)



OS back -




And a side by side shot of that awful gunk covered hoof just after the shoes came off and one from yesterday (looks like a different hoof!)


Just to remind us how it looked before...




Ah so the link I had to use for the side by side was h ttps://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1378662_10151989114567065_663700089_n.jpg

.... H+H I think has shortend the codes artificially.
 
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