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Had someone to view a horse I'm selling, horse in question LW TB x type, nice person, easy to handle, good all respects BLAH BLAH BLAH, had a lady ring mother daughter share, this horse would be perfect, so arrange time etc, they turned up and well.....they were big, and I don't mean to sound nasty, as I'm no lightweight, but I'm a fit and balanced rider...the horse in question is only 5 and has been brought on ever so slowly just hacked and some light schooling ready for someone to bring on a do a job....

Oh shite.. I thought, they were lovely, lovely people so I asked them about their experience etc and while chatting had a brainwave - I told them the little horse had been in all day, so would one of them like to ride my cob while I warmed up little horse?? Mum said she would, and got on and was a *thank the lord* very, very nervous and unbalanced rider.....I said TBH that the little horse needed alot more work to be what they wanted and directed them to a lady who deals in very sensible cobs and native types, so turned out well all round - but I do feel horrid as I though OMG they can't get on a lightweight horse like mine...:(
 
Well done.

It's easy really - compare measurement A and B.

If B >= A then you should not ride the horse.

A = The width of the horse's backside
B = The width of your backside.

Simples. :)
 
Can I just ask how large exactly were they? In stones and height. How big is the horse you were selling, breed and bone etc. How big was the cob that the mum rode and how big was the saddle, is the cob a short backed type or does it have a 17/18 inch saddle. Only asking because depending how big this rider exactly was and how big the seat area of the saddle in fact was would affect their riding ability. A seat not big enough for the rider would result in a wrong centre of balance for the rider causing them to be unbalanced in the saddle.
I am just asking because we only have a few comments to go and it would be nice to get the full picture before anyone can pass any judgements/comments on here as none of us were there except for you and the two people in question.
 
hh! I am selling a lightweight arabxtb, and alot of the people who have called have been too heavy for her. I mean, I'm a bit over 9stn, and i think I look strange on her, my friend who is the size of a 12yo looks perfect to me :D

Makes me wonder what they see when they look in the mirror! Especially after looking at her picture on the ad!

I think you handled this really well!

I had a girl and her mother come to buy my pony some years back, to my horror the fat mother got on and rode him (very badly), I told her to get off, and that she wasn't having him anyway. -.-

I think some people are deluded, others just don't realise, bless!

Good luck with selling her!
 
brucea said:
Well done.

It's easy really - compare measurement A and B.

If B >= A then you should not ride the horse.

A = The width of the horse's backside
B = The width of your backside.

Simples. :)
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I hope that is meant to be a joke!
I resent the fact that a person's backside could be compared to that of a horse. I would doubt very much that you would find people who had a bigger backside than that of a horse unless the said person was morbidly obese or you were comparing the rear end of a foal or tiny pony to a person. If the person was morbidly obese then I doubt very much they would even be trying to sit on a horse let alone ride it!
 
Cazee34 said:
I hope that is meant to be a joke!
I resent the fact that a person's backside could be compared to that of a horse. I would doubt very much that you would find people who had a bigger backside than that of a horse unless the said person was morbidly obese or you were comparing the rear end of a foal or tiny pony to a person. If the person was morbidly obese then I doubt very much they would even be trying to sit on a horse let alone ride it!
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I think it was a joke, I read it as a joke!
 
Cazee34 said:
Can I just ask how large exactly were they? In stones and height. How big is the horse you were selling, breed and bone etc. How big was the cob that the mum rode and how big was the saddle, is the cob a short backed type or does it have a 17/18 inch saddle. Only asking because depending how big this rider exactly was and how big the seat area of the saddle in fact was would affect their riding ability. A seat not big enough for the rider would result in a wrong centre of balance for the rider causing them to be unbalanced in the saddle.
I am just asking because we only have a few comments to go and it would be nice to get the full picture before anyone can pass any judgements/comments on here as none of us were there except for you and the two people in question.
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Blimey :eek:! If she says they were too big....... they were too big!!
 
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Cazee34 said:
I hope that is meant to be a joke!
I resent the fact that a person's backside could be compared to that of a horse. I would doubt very much that you would find people who had a bigger backside than that of a horse unless the said person was morbidly obese or you were comparing the rear end of a foal or tiny pony to a person. If the person was morbidly obese then I doubt very much they would even be trying to sit on a horse let alone ride it!
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Seriously, you need to lighten up, love.
 
Cazee34 said:
Can I just ask how large exactly were they? In stones and height. How big is the horse you were selling, breed and bone etc. How big was the cob that the mum rode and how big was the saddle, is the cob a short backed type or does it have a 17/18 inch saddle. Only asking because depending how big this rider exactly was and how big the seat area of the saddle in fact was would affect their riding ability. A seat not big enough for the rider would result in a wrong centre of balance for the rider causing them to be unbalanced in the saddle.
I am just asking because we only have a few comments to go and it would be nice to get the full picture before anyone can pass any judgements/comments on here as none of us were there except for you and the two people in question.
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Haha. Because whipping out the scales to find out their weight would have been more tactful?
 
Cazee34 said:
Can I just ask how large exactly were they? In stones and height. How big is the horse you were selling, breed and bone etc. How big was the cob that the mum rode and how big was the saddle, is the cob a short backed type or does it have a 17/18 inch saddle. Only asking because depending how big this rider exactly was and how big the seat area of the saddle in fact was would affect their riding ability. A seat not big enough for the rider would result in a wrong centre of balance for the rider causing them to be unbalanced in the saddle.
I am just asking because we only have a few comments to go and it would be nice to get the full picture before anyone can pass any judgements/comments on here as none of us were there except for you and the two people in question.
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The riders around 5'4" in height, I'm guessing 15 stones ish.....They were quite "rotund" It was the balance issue which worried me, Little hoss is only 15.1hh, think show pony type but taller!!

Cob is OH's horse and is a gentleman's hunter 15.2 solid leg in each corner - probably a rhino cross and wears an 18" saddle as OH is well built, hence the solid cob to carry him.
 
SophieLouBee said:
hh! I am selling a lightweight arabxtb, and alot of the people who have called have been too heavy for her. I mean, I'm a bit over 9stn, and i think I look strange on her, my friend who is the size of a 12yo looks perfect to me :D

Makes me wonder what they see when they look in the mirror! Especially after looking at her picture on the ad!

I think you handled this really well!

I had a girl and her mother come to buy my pony some years back, to my horror the fat mother got on and rode him (very badly), I told her to get off, and that she wasn't having him anyway. -.-

I think some people are deluded, others just don't realise, bless!

Good luck with selling her!
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How big exactly is your arab x tb?
Arabs are actually more hardy and better weight carriers than people think.
Try googling them being ridden in the deserts by fully grown men.
As for tbs well I have an ex racer who actually carried 12 stone and 11-8 to victory over jumps. Only 15 hands and doesn't have the biggest of legs so work that one out.
Has also hacked quite comfortably and galloped too with around 12/13 stone on its back as well.
 
Cazee34 said:
I hope that is meant to be a joke!
I resent the fact that a person's backside could be compared to that of a horse. I would doubt very much that you would find people who had a bigger backside than that of a horse unless the said person was morbidly obese or you were comparing the rear end of a foal or tiny pony to a person. If the person was morbidly obese then I doubt very much they would even be trying to sit on a horse let alone ride it!
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:D:D:D ahahahahah........ my backside well resembles a horses currently as my boy is out of action!! :D:D:D
 
hackinharry said:
The riders around 5'4" in height, I'm guessing 15 stones ish.....They were quite "rotund" It was the balance issue which worried me, Little hoss is only 15.1hh, think show pony type but taller!!

Cob is OH's horse and is a gentleman's hunter 15.2 solid leg in each corner - probably a rhino cross and wears an 18" saddle as OH is well built, hence the solid cob to carry him.
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That makes sense then. Just didn't know the size or type of the horse you were selling. Can see now why riders were too big. 18 saddle would have been fine for the bum so balance was down to rider then. I just know what it is like to sit on a wrong saddle that is all and I am a balanced rider, and no I am not a lightweight either. I would say if the rider had been around the 12/13 stone mark though max they may not have been too bad but 15stones does sound a lot for a horse of the type you are describing.
Tactfully done then and a cob or native does sound more suitable.
My post was simply to ask as I have read that many posts on here and other forums about weight issues and horses and think some people do over react when horse can quite comfortably carry much more than they think, especially the native types.
Not saying that was the issue here but just wanted to know the full story if that made sense.
Thank you for replying and I hope you find someone for your horse soon :)
best wishes
 
Originally Posted by Cazee34
I hope that is meant to be a joke!
I resent the fact that a person's backside could be compared to that of a horse. I would doubt very much that you would find people who had a bigger backside than that of a horse unless the said person was morbidly obese or you were comparing the rear end of a foal or tiny pony to a person. If the person was morbidly obese then I doubt very much they would even be trying to sit on a horse let alone ride it!
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Yeah, sorry, it was meant to be a joke. I'll use [/Bloke Humour] tags next time :p
 
Cazee34 said:
That makes sense then. Just didn't know the size or type of the horse you were selling. Can see now why riders were too big. 18 saddle would have been fine for the bum so balance was down to rider then. I just know what it is like to sit on a wrong saddle that is all and I am a balanced rider, and no I am not a lightweight either. I would say if the rider had been around the 12/13 stone mark though max they may not have been too bad but 15stones does sound a lot for a horse of the type you are describing.
Tactfully done then and a cob or native does sound more suitable.
My post was simply to ask as I have read that many posts on here and other forums about weight issues and horses and think some people do over react when horse can quite comfortably carry much more than they think, especially the native types.
Not saying that was the issue here but just wanted to know the full story if that made sense.
Thank you for replying and I hope you find someone for your horse soon :)
best wishes
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No probs - and they really were very nice people, I hope they find a horse, I did say to them on the phone he's a fine build as well! Although fully togged I'm 11 stones but I'm 5'8" and he carries me, just feels too small or I'd have kept him he's such a nice ride!
My coblin looked after her well, as he always does and she looked fine on him, just leant forward and held his mouth, cob takes no notice but little hoss isn't used to that and may have become confused! TBH they'd be fine with a gentle 14hh plus gypsy cob type, nothing at all wrong with larger riders, just not the right horse for them, and I wouldn't be prepared to sell for it all to end in tears....have another viewing tomorrow, a 14 year old moving off ponies coming over with her instructor so fingers crossed!
 
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