Ok, so the vet has just been and (re-sarcoids earlier post)

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He has taken the photos.
He said that it could be treated with liverpool cream and it will 99% definately go, or the other option is to just leave it well alone?
He has had it since last June, it isn't any bigger, it doesn't interfere with any tack and he doesn't have any anywhere else.
Am so confused!
Will my insurance cover sarcoids? If he ever gets any more and i claim this time will i be able to claim again?
Sorry for the numpty questions, but just don't know what to do!?
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Kate x
 
Hi,
Sorry to hear about the sarcoids. My girl had quite a big one on the inside of her hind leg. It didnt seem to bother her but the flies loved it last Summer.
Anyway i decided to let the Vet see it and he recommended liverpool cream although had to wait til late Sept cos of flies. Best thing i could have done as it has completely gone and she just has a tiny little scar that now has hair growing over it. You will be insured for the treatment the first time you have them treated but if they come back or if anymore apper you wont be. My horse insurance has excluded all warts, sarcoids or tumours. All nin all it costa about £600.00 ( at least thats what i was charged)
Hope i helped ;)
 
Unless it is causing issues and would need removing I wouldn't claim through insurance. Try the Liverpool cream, but other than that I would leave alone. Sometimes they just go, other times they never change. Just keep your eye on it and if it ever leaks fluid, gets bigger etc then call vet.

Normally with horse insurance once you claim for something, you cannot claim again, is that right?
 
Sorry I didn't see your earlier post but I have used liverpool cream and it did work - It was over 7 years ago now but didn't cost enough for me to claim on my insurance ! But your insurace should cover sarcoids yes

If it was a massive cluster and it needed some serious treatment then I would claim - save it for later in life !


Just as a matter of point when I was younger working at a trekking center the old guy tied off a busted sarcoid with a plaiting band ! it fell off and never came back - this was years and years ago !
 
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Mine had two sarcoids one at the base of his ear and the other on the inside of his back leg vet ordered the Liverpool cream and while we waited for it to arrive I fed him thuja tablets by the time the cream came the one on his leg had gone and the one near his ear was ready to drop off, the vet used the cream on the one on his ear it fell off and he's never had any problems. Re your insurance you would be best to claim now as if you try and claim later they will ask your vet for your horses previous medical history and they wont pay out as he would have had treatment for sarcoids in the past.
 
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I would say that if you aren't planning on selling your horse and the sarcoid isn't changing and doesn't interfere with tack then leave well alone.

The Liverpool cream can be very very painful for them and is not always sucessful. I've had better results with sarc-off than I have with the Liverpool cream.
 
With regard to your insurance it makes no difference if you claim or not now in so much as it is a pre existing condition and therefore declarable to your insurer as a material fact.

If you don't disclose it now that it has been diagnosed your are withholding a material fact from your insurer and they could invalid your policy because of this.

This is true of all conditions whether an abcess or low grade colic - strictly speaking you should inform your insurer of each occurance.

Makes it pretty pointless having insurance really - the minute you make a claim they will ask to see your veterinary notes and if you have not declared something that was treated you are in breach of the terms and conditions.:mad:
 
Im not sure about the insurance element but I had 4-5 sarcoids (the flattish ones) on Percy and I used Blood Root Ointment (you get it from the vet). Cost me about £30, used 2 applications and they went. Initially they look like it hasn't worked but after a month all that is left is a small scar. I personally wouldnt go for the Liverpool option as it looked quite painful but if its affecting your horse then I guess you will know the best course of action.

Oh, and the Blood Root people had a vet on call that you could phone and ask questions of. Really helpful too.

Hope it gets sorted :)
 
I know every horse reacts differently to treatment but i was not impressed at all with the Liverpool cream, my horse had 4 sarcoids on sheath and belly and the highest strength of the cream was used and it never got rid of any of them and the cream made my boy very sore and the sarcoids started to bleed, the whole procedure cost over £500 and now it's been over 12 months I won't be covered by insurance if I wanted to have another go at it as my vet recommends, but I'm not,

I also used thuja cream and tablets last summer for my horse and I did see an improvement, they started shrinking but the vets told me I shouldn't be putting anything on them as it will eventually aggreviate them

I would be interested to see what has worked for everyone else
 
You may as well just treat and claim now you have had the vet see it. Because as a previous poster has said, now you vet has diagnosed it, it will be on your veterinary history, so once this insurance period is up, it will be excluded as a previous condition on any future policy. (when filling out a claim form they always ask for a print out of veterinary history and ask your vet if it has had the condition in the past)

I've seen several sarcoids treated, and they have all come off (large ones also banded). Only on 1 pony have they come back, but she gets new ones in all different places every year. She is one giant sarcoid bless her!
 
My lad has had one on the tip of his ear since the day I got him (7 years ago) and I've never bothered with it. It doesn't bother him and doesn't change or interfer with his tack so I leave well alone.
 
madlady said:
I would say that if you aren't planning on selling your horse and the sarcoid isn't changing and doesn't interfere with tack then leave well alone.
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Bad advice, IMHO. IME, horses very rarely stop at ONE sarcoid - and what is worse, his stable mates may well be affected! I learnt the hard way - I had a horse with one nodular sarcoid high up on his neck - it didn't interfere with anything and it didn't change at ALL. When 6 out of 70 horses had sarcoids develop in the next two years - and they were ALL horses that were stabled close to this horse, the penny dropped!

Biting flies will bite the sarcoid on one horse. They will then bite that horse - or others - in close proximity! More sarcoids! Obviously, once I woke up, the original horse had his sarcoid removed - castration banding and cryo, and the rest have had their sarcoids removed (most with Liverpool cream - 2 with Effudix. 8 months on and I have had no more sarcoids. It's early days and there are no guarantees with sarcoids, but I'd put money on me NOT having another 6 in the next two years!

ETA - funnily enough I saw a horse come out of surgery today while getting 2 stallions x-rayed for grading purposes. It was a BLOODY mess - but an absolutely stunning big sport horse. I asked what its problem had been - and it was sarcoids - lots of them! Obviously, it started with one!
 
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