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Tia

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I think I have mentioned on here this dilemma of mine, although perhaps I haven't, I can't remember.

As some of you know, I have a horse called Oscar. He was the first horse I bought when I moved out here. He is a sorrel quarter horse with the most stunning bloodlines and he is turning 4 years old in a few months.

I bought him as a yearling from his breeder. I backed him, took him to a couple of cattle events, he has many hours trail riding under his belt, he is super-gentle, never flinches at anything and calmly does anything I ask of him. He is completely non-spooky and was used last year as my second lead horse out on the trails at only 3 years old. He has never put a foot wrong and any small child can ride him quite safely.....in fact anyone can ride him whether they be a total beginner or an experienced rider. Everyone enjoys riding Oscar.

Although I own all the horses, Oscar comes under the category of being one of my 2 personal horses.....on the trails it is only me who rides him and he is not available for hire so anyone else who rides him are friends or family.

My neighbour, who has already bought 2 horses from me, started to profess an interest in Oscar last summer. She asked to buy him and I declined. She asked me how much I valued him at, I answered with his market value at 3 years old which was probably about 4 - 5K and it was only this low because he is sorrel. Well she likes sorrels and more importantly she adores Oscar, even though she has never ridden him.

Anyway all through haying she continually asked or made comments about buying him. I stood firm back then and said no I wasn't planning on selling him as he was my horse and not a seller-on. Don't get me wrong, she is a really lovely person and didn't make it uncomfortable or anything like that - more quirky comments like "are you sure you don't want to sell him LOL!" and "any time you decide to sell him please sell him to me".

Anyway most times I see her she makes a comment about Oscar and asks how he is doing. I've ridden over to her farm a number of times and she always adores seeing him and gives him special cuddles. She really does seem to be in love with him.

She was round a week or so ago and once again she said please can she buy him? I still said that I really didn't think I was able to sell him as he is very special to me. Anyway this was why I started to look around for another horse which would be just as nice as Oscar for her. I didn't tell her I was looking and when I found Taco last week I actually bought him with her in mind. However on driving home I decided that he was actually perfect for the trail riding this summer (especially since I have sold my giant Spotty Horse so I have no weight carrier anymore) so I wouldn't mention him to her and would continue looking for something else.

Well my husband took my daughter to the end of the lane this morning to catch the bus and he came home and told me that he met our neighbour and was telling her that I had bought another horse and her immediate response was "will she sell me Oscar now?". Husband's response was that I was still having trouble coming to terms with the thought of selling him and he didn't think that I could at the moment and would she be interested in buying Sureshot one of our appaloosa's? She said she liked him, but no, Oscar is the one she really wants.

I know she would give him a fantastic home, she idolises her horses, they own the most beautiful farm and she would pay whatever I asked for him, not that I would ever rip her off as she is a very good friend.

The thing is; I still need 2 lead horses as none of mine go out for longer than a 1 hour trail in any one day and I generally take 2 rides out per day. However I do actually have other horses who could become lead horses and I have a couple of youngsters that I could easily train up for the job, so that excuse is sort of redundant now.

I was hoping to take Oscar to more cattle events this year and my daughter wanted to Team Pen with him. At this moment in time, he is her favourite horse (apart from Cloud of course) however this does change every few months.

I just don't know what to do. I am not generally particularly sentimental about horses and she is definitely one of my preferred customers and more importantly I know he would be fabulous for them and I also know that he would love the lifestyle over there. He would be very happy; they would be very happy so why am I having this trouble with deciding?

I have 13 horses with another couple of foals on the way this year; one of foals is being bought by this neighbour when it is weaned. I have enough other horses to fulfill the job that Oscar performs.

What do I do?
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Here is a picture of Oscar at 23 months - he is the horse at the back. Please excuse the state of Jet in the foreground, this was when I had only owned Jet for 1 day. Incidentally Jet was 3 years old in this picture so a year older than Oscar.

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And here is Oscar as a 3 year old last summer:

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He is lovely Tia, sounds like a star.

I have to say.... it's not the worst predicament lol

However, I can totally see your point and I think its really nice that you are so attached to him.

Your post didn't really say whether or not you *need* to sell one of them but I would just go with your gut feeling.

My boss always says make a decision then sit on it for a few days, if it feels right then go with it if not then you know you have made the wrong choice! It made sense to me and hope it helps a bit....
 
oohh I really can't be a lot of help I am afraid, just wanted to say that must be a really hard decision for you. Your post does sound a bit like you think that you should sell him but want us to say so too
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does that make sense?? Good luck in whatever you decide
 
My feeling is that you should take her up on her offer, but maybe rather than sell him outright, sell him but with strings attached - you can decide what they are. Maybe she could have him on three months' trial, and if either of you are not happy then she hands him back and gets a refund (providing he has been properly looked after and is in good health). As long as you make a profit on him it makes good business sense - you have a good eye for a horse, and could probably replace him in a fairly short space of time. Are sorrels cheaper? I thought Beano was going to be sorrel, but he is chestnut.
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Oh I have made the decision to sell him and then slept on it.....and the next day decided not to sell him. I have also gone to bed with the decision to keep him...only to waken and think that yes I will sell him.

I don't really need to sell him as I sold my valuable Spotty Horse last month.....BUT I do hate to passby the opportunity of rehoming my horses in the most fantastic homes....and this home is certainly that which is why I have already sold them 2 horses and am selling them one of this years foals.

I do wonder whether I am being selfish by keeping him. I think the problem comes from the fact that when I buy horses in the first place they are all categorised: either they are seller-ons, trail horses, or mine. He is in the latter category
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My daughter wants me to sell Jet instead....but he is definitely not for sale at this present time.


Incidentally, here is a picture of Jet a mere 2 months later.

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I can see why she loves him, he's beautiful! (but I am a sucker for sorrels!)

I don't know what to tell you Tia. You know I am struggling with this same decision myself right now. I know the girl who loans Harv spoils him rotten, and he would get out to lots of competitions and have a great life, but he is special to me too. I helped to break him, and he was the first horse I "owned", not just loaned.

When you have made a decision, maybe you can help me with mine!
 
Why don't you keep him until you have a couple of replacements lined up for him and can be sure that you could do without him and explain what you are doing to her, so that she understands that when he does come up for sale she will have first refusal (or even tell her that if you are going to sell him it would only be to her)

My only consideration would be, what if he isn't the horse for her, I know she loves him now..but if it didn't work out could you cope with her selling him on again, or wanting to sell him back with injuries or spoilt in some other way
 
Difficult, although this maybe the only home where you get the opportunity to keep in contact with him and he is closeby. Although I couldn't do it.
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My gut instinct would be to sell him- he's going to have what sounds like the best possible home (if he has to go anywhere) and not many people can sell knowing that there horse will have a loving home etc mostly this is what we can hope for at best.
It sounds like you would have the best chance of knowing how he is and what he's up to if he went there. And you have potential all around you to replace him.

Just my feelings
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I agree; except my special ones. To be honest she would be prepared to pay double what I would ask for him on the open market....however I would never do that to her - if I were to sell him, it would be for market value and no more.
 
I have a feeling you've already decided and just posted on here to see what others think - you've done that before now LOL!
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It seems he still has a job for this summer, so perhaps loan him to her for a period of time, until you have the desired number of lead horses trained.

He's a lovely stamp and if she's as nice as you say, then you haven't anything to worry about re: care.

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He is young and has years ahead of him either working or doing western stuff with your daughter. He really sounds like a keeper. And what happened to the spotty one - I thought you had kept him?
 
I have an idea and I hope it works!!

Read your post as if the post were written by someone else. Read it as if it were my post if you like? What would you tell me to do?
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He is your horse if you want to keep him then keep him, dont feel pressure to sell when you quite clearly dont want to, be kind but firm and say no.

and GTs not every horse is for sale !!
 
Yes sorrels sell for less than other colours - mainly because a higher percentage of QH's are sorrel, so they are more common....however where Oscar is concerned, he has very old and very established working stock Foundation bloodlines, so he is a cut above a lot of sorrels.

It would be pointless putting him on trial really, although this is a great suggestion; I know what the outcome would be......they would LOVE him and I would quickly become accustomed to him not being mine. Out of sight out of mind if you know what I mean. Harsh as it may sound
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Ahh Tia, I think you are wrong - I think you are sentimental about at least some of your horses, and Oscar sounds like one of them.

Sometimes a horse comes in to our life that is destined to stay with us forever - whatever the reason. A friend ownes a horse like that. He has never been for sale at any price - despite being offered an awful lot for him. As she says, he's been a privalige to own, and will be with her forever. She like you is a business woman - breeds and sells them on quite happily.

However, some stay.

Keep him.
 
Not really and I honestly wouldn't want to use him. I have been offered this by the new owner of my huge Appy who was bought by one of my boarders and still boards here. I know I will never use the Spotty Horse just like I would never use Oscar if I sold him.

I think I have a mind flip once I sell them - I just wouldn't consider using them and I really wouldn't have any need to as I have so many others I can use.
 
Well I do know what today brings....not sure about tomorrow though LOL!!

Today husband has gone out to buy a round baler and an inverter for a number of thousands of dollars......is this why I am thinking of selling? I don't know
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. We have the money to buy the machinery and I still have 7.5K coming in over the next couple of months from the sale of my Spotty Horse.
 
A real dilema.If it was me i would give in and sell him.As you say he would be going to a fab home where you will still see him regular basis.Would his potential new mummy still take him out and about??.Would Taco be able to fill Oscars shoes in the trail leading??.
 
LOL!! You know I actually thought of you when I was writing this post - what a pair of indecisive, sentimental fools we are eh?
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A real dilema.If it was me i would give in and sell him.As you say he would be going to a fab home where you will still see him on a regular basis.Would his potential new mummy still take him out and about??.Would Taco be able to fill Oscars shoes in the trail leading??.
 
No, it doesn't sound harsh - I am the same. I would never choose to loan a horse - I'd either keep it, or sell it. I suppose it boils down to which would be harder to replace - Oscar, or a fantastic home waiting for one of your horses? He is very handsome, but then they all look pretty gorgeous to me!
 
Firstly, I would think about the business, is it going to expand, will you need to take on other people and require good lead horses for them. If this is so, I would keep him. Also do you have plenty of back up, should things go wrong, ie not one but two horses go lame, would you need a good horse to fall back on.

I would be looking at this horse in a long term business kind of way, to see if he will continue to be useful and needed, considering you have other horses up and coming. I would not limit myself on good lead horses as for the above mentioned reasons, you clearly need good horses in order to run your business.

If he is not needed and will not be missed, then its down to your own personal sentiments. Personally, because you have quite a lot of horses and the ability to get them to that standard, I would let him go. He could go and break a leg tomorrow, you never know with horses. A good home is on offer and it seems an good opportunity for him.
 
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