OMG findus has 60-100% horsemeat in their lasagne!!

Why the big hoo-haa!?
The only issue is that we have been lied to about the meat we are eating. Yes, that's very wrong.
But I keep seeing statuses on fb eg -
"to everyone that laughs at me for being veggie - you've probably been eating horsemeat for years, HA - I've had the last laugh.. the last laughs on you all!!!"

Erm?
I really don't care.
Cow, sheep, pig, horse.
It's all lifestock.
 
Where did people think all those horses were going and where they were ending up? People have been warning of this for years (before the threads were pulled, ho hum).

I agree, no problem with eating horse, this is a labelling issue and a huge fraud issue and a lesson to buy and eat locally.
 
Why the big hoo-haa!?
The only issue is that we have been lied to about the meat we are eating. Yes, that's very wrong.
But I keep seeing statuses on fb eg -
"to everyone that laughs at me for being veggie - you've probably been eating horsemeat for years, HA - I've had the last laugh.. the last laughs on you all!!!"

Erm?
I really don't care.
Cow, sheep, pig, horse.
It's all lifestock.

I don't really care at all what sort of meat I am eating.

However, there could be implications as to how it came to be in the meat chain and also where from.
 
The issue for me is that is says "beef" on the packaging !!! I agree that it is not necessarily wrong to eat horsemeat but I do like to know what I am buying.

and I hope these horses are not the ones being bought cheap in the uk - shipped in horrible conditions only to be slaughtered and returned to us in boxes - they could at least of had the decency if this is the case to slaughter them here !!

think France will be losing alot of business if this is the case ! I did always wonder how some meat was soo cheap (dont eat findus as not keen).
 
The thing is the way I have heard people talk about it, nobody really cares. All they care about is eating cheap and that is where the problem lies, if your prepared to eat cheap meat then it could be anything your eating - in these cases it just goes to show it really is a case of eating enything!
 
and I hope these horses are not the ones being bought cheap in the uk - shipped in horrible conditions only to be slaughtered and returned to us in boxes - they could at least of had the decency if this is the case to slaughter them here !!

I'd say that's exactly what has happened.
Consumers want cheap, businesses want to keep their margins down, this is what happens.

Despite all the crying on here some times, the UK has some of the best welfare standards in the worlds in their slaughterhouses and farms.

Out of sight, out of mind, buy it cheap, this is what happens.
 
The supermarkets have pushed the profit boundaries too far

I'm buying my meat from a butcher from now on. I don't object to eating horse, I just don't want a supermarket telling me lies. .....
 
The supermarkets have pushed the profit boundaries too far

I'm buying my meat from a butcher from now on. I don't object to eating horse, I just don't want a supermarket telling me lies. .....

The supermarkets haven't told you lies necessarily. It's the companies making the products.
 
Why the big hoo-haa!?
The only issue is that we have been lied to about the meat we are eating. Yes, that's very wrong.
But I keep seeing statuses on fb eg -
"to everyone that laughs at me for being veggie - you've probably been eating horsemeat for years, HA - I've had the last laugh.. the last laughs on you all!!!"

Erm?
I really don't care.
Cow, sheep, pig, horse.
It's all lifestock.

I would put money that some vegetarian ready meals have had horse meat in too. These criminals aren't going to care. I bet it's cheaper than Quorn or other such alternatives.
 
Hunters, I agree but they are talking about testing all beef products within a week (so the shelves maybe empty of beef products in the supermarkets before long!) - dont think anyone will be suprised at the results !! unless of course we find horsemeat in our chicken curry !

Its a no-win situation - if the horses were being bought for meat and its stopped, what will happen to them then ! and if they are being bought for meat and exported we have all heard of the nasty conditions in export !

Maybe the UK market for horsemeat will increase with the knowledge that a. we have all been eating it more than likely for a long time and b. foot and mouth may be coming back and horses are one of the few livestock not to be affected !
 
Whilst many of you are saying you have no problem eating horsemeat, remember that in general horses are not bred for the meat market. Consequently they may have drugs in their systems which are not particularly good for humans. Bute, for example, has been researched and is known to stay in a horses system almost for it's entire lifetime. Bute poses a risk to human health.

So whilst some horses in France are bred for meat (although most meat breeds are now becoming endangered), most of the animals will have been more cheaply sought from eastern europe, and possibly also the UK. Would you still eat the meat knowing it had travelled hundreds if not thousands of miles in poor conditions? I'm sure we've all seen the photos of that.

Just goes to further point out that if you want to know where your food and meat comes from, buy locally as close to the source as possible. And don't pull the 'I'm poor and I need to buy this food as it's cheap' card. Just eat less meat, but buy better quality local meat.
 
wouldnt suprise me with the takeaways - twice before we have had a takeaway (not from our usual place) and the chicken has not had the right texture ! looks too processed - definately something fishy going on !!

It is scary about the bute situation though - I dont expect for one minute the French (in the findus case) will be prosecuted. I would not choose to eat animals I consider to be pets (personal choice - dog, cat, horse..) but if they are going to sell horsemeat - label it as such and regulate the industry, slaughter and process in this country as humanely as possible.

Just looked in our freezer and we have frozen mince !! def. not throwing it away (to me that is even worse than eating it - why waste it so others have to be killed) but would now be suprised if it was 100% beef !! - tasted good in the chilli tonight though ! had a kick to it !! sorry !!
 
I would put money that some vegetarian ready meals have had horse meat in too. These criminals aren't going to care. I bet it's cheaper than Quorn or other such alternatives.

I very much doubt that. That is a strong accusation to say.

I have had many vege meals and since they have been approved by the vege society I do not see how that is possible.

I know so of you say how can you eat a pig but not ah horse. Well that is down the the individual person who sees bovine and chickens and pigs in a different light to horses.

The even looks at a horse burger makes my stomach churn. Nothing in this world would make me eat an animal which i have been brought up with most of my life. If I had been brought up with cows or pigs as pets I would feel the same way.
 
I don't eat meat, but if I did, I would not see a difference eating horse or eating cow. However, I do see two major problems with this. Firstly, it seems there were also traces of bute found in the samples, and secondly, it means that beef farmers are being undercut by fraudsters passing off horsemeat as beef. Both these things are incredibly serious.
 
for me its not the fact of eating horsemeat -i dont have a problem with that exactly ,its the fact that you now cannot trust any product with "meat" to state honestly what its content is. its the bute etc that worrys me as a parent ,when ive always tried to make fresh for my children its not always practical or possible to do so ,so unless your entire family is veggie EVERYONE will have been affected by this.
 
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