On the subject of turnout..

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I saw a girl hunting the other day (opening meet) and she had a bright pink and purple body protector on over her jacket.

Do you think this is acceptable? I know kids have to wear BPs (although not sure why they have to wear them over their jackets but hey ho), but should they not try and wear one that fits in with the dress code a bit?
 
Well I agree she is only a child and they should be encouraged to wear protection, but also that they should be dull colour or under the jacket as you say. It annoys me that when it rains the PC members wear their blue PC jackets (which is widely accepted) but then adults come out in waterproofs aswell. Bit of bad form I think.
 
cant stand brightly coloured anything out hunting. there is no need for coloured electrical tape on boots, coloured saddlecloths and coloured body protectors. put it under your jacket if it's bright.
 
Oh and BTW Sarah, how did opening meet go? Mummy called to say you had a lot of antis out? I was going to come out with a friend's horse but decided I'd have a better day with the Blankney!
 
Glad it's not just me!!

A guy started buttoning his jacket up (flicked the collar up) on Saturday when it started raining!!! Also bad form! Me and mum told him to put it down... he did! :p
 
Agree. Also am a stickler for hairnets although I was a past offender. Dirty tack, snotty eyed horses, dirty stocks, ready tied stocks (look [****] and don't do their job AT all, so failure on all levels. ) I'm not fussed by the odd faux pas and I think it's very important to welcome new people but after a couple of meets the sec or someone really should point out that winnie the pooh saddle cloths have no place on the hunting field, nor do loud ring tones, and those horrible show jumper hats with the silver stripes down them.
 
Rossie - you are one of the worst no hairnet offender ever! :p Me too though, although I did wear one on Sat. :)

OM was good. :) Do you remember Rupert? He's FM master now and did a good job and looked very much the part. We never saw the antis until we were on our way home but there was a fair bit of trouble from the sounds of it.

Will you be around for boxing day? it's all men at the front now. Boring! :p
 
Agree. Also am a stickler for hairnets although I was a past offender. Dirty tack, snotty eyed horses, dirty stocks, ready tied stocks (look [****] and don't do their job AT all, so failure on all levels. ) I'm not fussed by the odd faux pas and I think it's very important to welcome new people but after a couple of meets the sec or someone really should point out that winnie the pooh saddle cloths have no place on the hunting field, nor do loud ring tones, and those horrible show jumper hats with the silver stripes down them. [/quote.

Thank you - I agree 100%!!
Yes - and ban ALL Mobile 'phone calls apart from a 999 situation.
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Perfectly acceptable to wear a waterproof in vile weather. I was always taught there is no such thing as bad weather, only inappropriate clothing. If putting a riding mac on over your hunt coat saves you from dying of pneumonia then go for it.

You'll find the hunt staff from upland packs are issued with scarlet waterproofs with leg straps as it would be daft to expect them to ride all day in sodden hunt coats.

I'm all for smart turnout, but it has still got to be practical. Snotty comments about colours of body protectors are not helpful at all. This kid might have been new to hunting, no point buying a new dark coloured body protector in case she likes it, they don't come cheap as you well know. Surely we'd rather new blood was being encouraged to come.
 
I'm all for smart turnout, but it has still got to be practical. Snotty comments about colours of body protectors are not helpful at all. This kid might have been new to hunting, no point buying a new dark coloured body protector in case she likes it, they don't come cheap as you well know. Surely we'd rather new blood was being encouraged to come.
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absolutely agree with this- you really expect the mother to buy a new body protector or new jacket for the child?
not everyone has large amounts of money to spend and i think we should instead be encouraging youngsters and be pleased they are coming out in the first place?
 
I can not believe that anyone would be petty enought to make comment about some one putting up their coller in bad weather. I am jolly glad I haven't met you out hunting becouse you come across as highly critical and very unfriendly.
 
I'm all for smart turnout, but it has still got to be practical. Snotty comments about colours of body protectors are not helpful at all. This kid might have been new to hunting, no point buying a new dark coloured body protector in case she likes it, they don't come cheap as you well know. Surely we'd rather new blood was being encouraged to come.
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absolutely agree with this- you really expect the mother to buy a new body protector or new jacket for the child?
not everyone has large amounts of money to spend and i think we should instead be encouraging youngsters and be pleased they are coming out in the first place?
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Erm yes actually I do. You would not be able to ride a dressage test without the right kit, you would be asked to leave the show ring and in an interview for a job you would also be knocked apart for bad dress.
I'm all for encouraging new blood but bright colours don't really do.
Sorry C_C I didn't realise waterproofs were used, we always seem to be pretty OK with weather and FM's have asked waterproofs to be removed before moving off from a meet.
 
so you honestly would rather the child didn't hunt than went out with a coloured body protector???
if i have read that correctly i really cannot believe it.
 
http://www.devonandsomersetstaghounds.net/

Picture of the staff and masters of the Devon & Somerset Staghounds ready to brave the elements on Exmoor....

I'm afraid that I am still in favour of cutting this child a bit of slack on the dress code. The way people were creating you would think she had turned up in pink jodhs, an orange musto and a red and blue hat silk. A quiet word that when the child grows out of bright body protector then perhaps it might be worth investing in something darker if hunting is becoming a regular actviity would be a far more productive approach.

Fair enough try to beg, steal or borrow the right kit, but there is a certain degree of levity even with dressage divas. I went to a Prelim Test that my friend was riding in - she looked very smart in her black coat and white hunting tie, but there were others being encouraged to make a start in the sport who were permitted to wear ratcatcher without loss of marks.
 
TBH that is the most ridiculous snotty nosed thing to say!!
Im hunting for the first time on tues and no i havn't got the "best" correct kit but im going to do my best......im certainly not breaking my bank just to please the likes of you rosie.....
 
don't worry hollie you will be fine!!

i go out regularly in my pikeur black jacket, my horse wears a sheepskin saddlepad and a fluffy girth sleeve.

nobody seems to notice or care when we are up the front out jumping everyone else :)
 
I think its a ridiculous idea to think a CHILD should be concerned about turnout over safety when out hunting, as an adult I think it would be more caring to be happy that the child will be safe rather than the fact its body protector doesn't look good.

Out of interest any masters here who can state their viewpoint, it seems like the fellow riders are all protesting so lets hear what the organ grinders think - do they care for turnout over safety in children?
 
I find when I wear my BP UNDER my jacket, the jacket doesnt fit...of course mummy should really go and buy the child a new jacket, just to accommodate a BP to satisfy other peoples sensibilities.

Nope, still not good enough for me.
 
Fair enough but I just think when it comes to something as small as that, you have to look at the bigger picture. If pony is turned out well, child is turned out well and just happens to own a brightly coloured BP (which fits in with the rest of childs life) why really should they have to go to £80+ expense for a new one JUST for hunting, which may be something they do sporadically at best?

Given also that kids are liable to grow out of everything like wildfire..

Seems like splitting hairs to me, its not akin to a dirty horse or a child wearing a hoodie instead of a jacket.
 
LOL at half the field out in hoodies :grin:

ps my bp goes over my jacket too kit, I find it much easier for jumping that way :)

eta its black!
 
interesting debate, because I had a similar heated one with a friend recently. he hunts on foot (wouldn't be seen dead on a horse!!) but is so snotty about riders' turnout. he raises his eyebrows at my dressage boots and lightweight jacket (I love my boots, and could never afford to replace the coat) but no one gave a damn about them when I was jumping out the front and keeping up with the hounds all day, like millitiger said!

tbh, if you don't want new subscribers, fair enough, tell people their turnout isn't acceptable. if you're a pack which needs a few more pennies, you will need to be a bit more accommodating!
 
TBH that is the most ridiculous snotty nosed thing to say!!
Im hunting for the first time on tues and no i havn't got the "best" correct kit but im going to do my best......im certainly not breaking my bank just to please the likes of you rosie.....
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Nor would I expect you to, but hunting is organised, supported and funded by masters and supporters alike who agree that hunting expects a high turnout.
I have not said anything about showjumping saddles, as long as it is clean I see no problem with it, plenty of people wear jumping cut saddles on the hunting field. People should make an effort to look smart, and that doesnt mean they have to have the hunting jacket, I have never commented on show jackets being incorrect, I just think they are a little chilly and so will stick to my hunting jacket.
I'm not bothered if you think I'm snotty nosed, I like good turnout, if that is a crime of passion then so be it.
No one is going to discourage a child from wearing a body protector, but it would be best being made known that when the time comes for a new one, a dark one would be better.
 
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