Opinion/experiences of bailey's no.4? *pics*

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ImmyS

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Well only a little while ago i posted explaining that i was swapping my underweight tb from calm and condition to baileys no 4 and spillers conditioning fibre. She has officially been on this feed since friday and i don't know whether I'm just being hopeful and over optimistic but i could swear that she is already putting on weight! A noticeable amount aswell! So can you please share your opinions and experiences of this feed! :)

These were taking friday, not terrible but ribby...

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and today, not a rib in sight :eek:!!

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thank you for reading, photos of yours very welcome and honest cc! :)
 
I'm pretty impressed so far but not singing any praises yet, she's seems better though plus she hasn't gone loopy on the stuff which was a worry! (:
 
Definite improvement I'd say! Funny though because my TB went onto the no4 around Feb time to try and bulk him up a bit and it had absolutely no effect- was feeding fairly significant amounts of it too! But once I scrapped that and just upped his existing Alfa A Oil and beet, plus some pink powder, he picked up very quickly. Funny how different things work for different horses. :)
 
she does look better when i had my tb i fed him on it and found it to be really good and it didn't make him fizzy at all!
 
Yes I think its amazing how things have such different results for different horses! It's so satisfying to see an underweight horse finally pick up! Glad you found what worked for your horsey! (:
 
thatsmygirl said:
I swear by baileys no 4 won't use anything else on my tbs but calm and condition has done nothing to any off mine.
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Yes she was on c&c when I got her 2 months ago so thought I would carry on, but she just reached a limit and stopped putting on weight. Baileys no 4 is proving to be excellent and not even feeding the full recommended amount! :)
 
welshied said:
she does look better when i had my tb i fed him on it and found it to be really good and it didn't make him fizzy at all!
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Glad you didn't find it heating either, I heard some horror stories about horses becoming nutty on it!
 
Okay im sorry im going to be a little odd here but what is wrong with the first pictures? Thats what out tb looks like, well a tiny bit more covered but you can still see his ribs, and he is in work nearly every day and out 24/7 on just grass......i would be happy with him like that, it is the same for the lami, im just about getting the mares to look like that as well.

I would prefer them lookong like the first picture than the last but thats me.

She is very stunning.
Xx
 
slightlyconfused said:
Okay im sorry im going to be a little odd here but what is wrong with the first pictures? Thats what out tb looks like, well a tiny bit more covered but you can still see his ribs, and he is in work nearly every day and out 24/7 on just grass......i would be happy with him like that, it is the same for the lami, im just about getting the mares to look like that as well.

I would prefer them lookong like the first picture than the last but thats me.

She is very stunning.
Xx
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Hey everyone has their own preference! (: , but she is in very light work therefore she needs more covering so I can up the workload as she seriously lacks top line, her buttock muscles are lacking! :rolleyes: so she'll most likely end up more towards the first pictures but with more muscle :)
 
Ah okay then.....i just didnt want to get yelled at for being mean :D

Working long and low will help.topline alot as would working in the same setting on a passoa that helped our tb loads, he is an ex racer so really had no idea what long and low meant :o im coming to love the breed, he is our first.

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I think she looks better in the 2nd photo. My horse wasn't desperate in any means but did drop a bit of condition over winter and no. 4 really helped him, and it didnt make him go loopy or anything either. She looks great, what are you planning to do with her?
 
Looks much better in the 2nd pic. I wouldn't have said she was particularly poor in the first one, but on the ribbier side of lean.

We feed our ex racers winergy conditioning (and micronised linseed + grass nuts), which is really super - non heating and makes them so glossy and sleek.

In about 5 months Fig has gone from:
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slightlyconfused said:
Ah okay then.....i just didnt want to get yelled at for being mean :D

Working long and low will help.topline alot as would working in the same setting on a passoa that helped our tb loads, he is an ex racer so really had no idea what long and low meant :o im coming to love the breed, he is our first.

Xxx
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Don't worry not mean at all! :D.. Yes lots of long and low, pole work and hills! Same, she is our first tb, also an ex racer and she's really growing on me.. Such a character! :)
 
dominobrown said:
I think she looks better in the 2nd photo. My horse wasn't desperate in any means but did drop a bit of condition over winter and no. 4 really helped him, and it didnt make him go loopy or anything either. She looks great, what are you planning to do with her?
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So good to see them back up to weight though isn't it? (: well hoping to do a bit of everything, she's got a lovely pop in her despit being a flat racer! so hope to dome cross country and shoe jumping :)
 
They are great....where did you get her from, we have had ours for about 18 months. he did 81 races over nine years had a year off, went to the TRC in the july and we got him in the oct.....he is fab so well behaved and loving this new thing called jumping :D
 
nikkimariet said:
Looks much better in the 2nd pic. I wouldn't have said she was particularly poor in the first one, but on the ribbier side of lean.

We feed our ex racers winergy conditioning (and micronised linseed + grass nuts), which is really super - non heating and makes them so glossy and sleek.

In about 5 months Fig has gone from:
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I agree she isn't too bad in the first picture, she was a hat rack when we bought her though so has really picked up..

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.. Your boy looks absolutely fantastic! Congrats! X
 
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OP please tell me you are joking by using the term 'underweight' ?

She is a great weight and i certainly wouldn't want any more on her. I would not be 'fattening' her up!

Maybe we don't see it enough but the slight sight of some ribs when the light hits them right or maybe when the horse bends the other way is not a bad thing at all. And they should be easily felt without having to press.

She looks great, i would be maintaining that weight with fibre and grass and not putting more on.
 
somethingorother said:
OP please tell me you are joking by using the term 'underweight' ?

She is a great weight and i certainly wouldn't want any more on her. I would not be 'fattening' her up!

Maybe we don't see it enough but the slight sight of some ribs when the light hits them right or maybe when the horse bends the other way is not a bad thing at all. And they should be easily felt without having to press.

She looks great, i would be maintaining that weight with fibre and grass and not putting more on.
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She has next no muscle on her bum and her neck is only just starting to gain some muscle, her hips also stick out a lot, the first picture is a good one, you could count basically every single rib, I would not call that healthy
 
I had one of mine on A&P c&c and didn't see any weight gain and she was eating a lot of it. I swapped her onto bog standard pony nuts and there was a huge difference so I'm not overly surprised she's put on weight. I think it's more that the c&c isn't actually 'that' conditioning. Just my opinion though, I'm sure some will disagree but it didn't work for my mare
 
Vickijay said:
I had one of mine on A&P c&c and didn't see any weight gain and she was eating a lot of it. I swapped her onto bog standard pony nuts and there was a huge difference so I'm not overly surprised she's put on weight. I think it's more that the c&c isn't actually 'that' conditioning. Just my opinion though, I'm sure some will disagree but it didn't work for my mare
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Yes some people swear by it but I found it to make no difference
 
I feed the odd handful of no4 to my tb when he dips a bit but he does fantastically well on Pegasus nuts, fast fibre, ad lib hay and grass.
 
slightlyconfused said:
They are great....where did you get her from, we have had ours for about 18 months. he did 81 races over nine years had a year off, went to the TRC in the july and we got him in the oct.....he is fab so well behaved and loving this new thing called jumping :D
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Hey we got her over a private sale, only raced a total of 8 times as was deemed too slow, she's a chilled out lady to say the least, just turned 5 and been out of racing for two years now :)
 
In the first pic she looks fine just a little bit of muscle to build up. In the second she looks slightly over weight. Not a bad thing if she looses it quickly, but if she is putting it on that quickly, I would worry about her putting on to much. It is tempting when you have had a hat rack to feed them up a little too much. But in my experiance one you have the weight on a lot of these poor doers actually arn't that hard to maintain. Just keep your eye on her OP I would weigh tape to monitor her weight. Any weight gain or loss should be gradual

you can see my ribs but i am not under weight just fit and healthy
 
I wouldn't say she was underweight, and even if slightly ribby some good old Dr Green would sort it out!

Glad you've found a good conditioning feed though, may come in handy for the winter too :)
 
mini-eventer said:
In the first pic she looks fine just a little bit of muscle to build up. In the second she looks slightly over weight. Not a bad thing if she looses it quickly, but if she is putting it on that quickly, I would worry about her putting on to much. It is tempting when you have had a hat rack to feed them up a little too much. But in my experiance one you have the weight on a lot of these poor doers actually arn't that hard to maintain. Just keep your eye on her OP I would weigh tape to monitor her weight. Any weight gain or loss should be gradual

you can see my ribs but i am not under weight just fit and healthy
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Don't worry she will be closely monitored and food/workload will be changed accordingly.. Ohh and she may look a little over weight due to having a bit of a grass belly ;)
 
ImmyS said:
She has next no muscle on her bum and her neck is only just starting to gain some muscle, her hips also stick out a lot, the first picture is a good one, you could count basically every single rib, I would not call that healthy
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Weight and muscle are very different things. As someone else said be careful of her putting weight on too fast. A slightly overweight horse is in my opinion less healthy than a slightly underweight but fit horse.
 
somethingorother said:
Weight and muscle are very different things. As someone else said be careful of her putting weight on too fast. A slightly overweight horse is in my opinion less healthy than a slightly underweight but fit horse.
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But she is not fit, that is my point... A horse uses fat as its primary source of energy therefore if I were to up her work load for significant muscle development her calories spent would outweigh the calories she is getting, ie we would be back to square one. We have had her two months and built up her feed, work load according.
 
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