Opinions on Vangelis - Cremello Stallion

If you take a look on the site he has the AA gene, so according to what they have said you are either going to get a palomino or buckskin
 
Yes, as others have said the foal will be guaranteed to be born Palomino, but then you have a chance of the foal going grey - either 50% or 100%, depending on whether your mare is heterozygous or homozygous for the greying gene.

They greying will be down to your mare and not the stallion though, so the chances of her producing a grey foal will be the same no matter what colour stallion you choose and what colour the foal is born.

If she only had one grey parent, then you've got a 50% "risk" of the foal turning grey, but if both of her parents were grey then there is a chance she is homozygous for grey, and if this is the case, then all of her foals will eventually go grey.
 
As for this particular stallion - Apart from the colour genetics, I know nothing about him. He has been graded with the ECHA (European Coloured Horse Association - formerly the "Irish Cob Society" in Germany), and has been DNA tested to be AA (so will not give you a smokey black foal from a bay or black mare).

I've not heard of any of his ancestors, and don't know about his own performance record, but think that his owner is planning to get him performance tested.

HTH.
 
Thanks Ashbank, that's very interesting, it would be lovely to have a palomino foal, although I'd rather have a great horse than a great colour if you see what I mean. I am trying to look at Vangelis and imagine he is bay and see if I still like him - which I think I do..just have never heard of him before.
 
Personally I prefer Icon.

And a forum member on here has the most wonderful Palamino Stallion - but his blooming name has clean gone out of my head......
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Treliver Decanter? Lovely horse.
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Thankyou!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have been going mad trying to remember his name.

Exquisite............................
 
I have just been looking at him!! He is lovely. Also, he is just down the road from me as I am 10 mins from Addington too! Who is the HHoer that owns him? I'd love to go and see him.
 
He is lovely, we are thinking about next year now and will be interested to see his performance, I would love another Palomino to add to the 4 we have already (OH would kill me for that comment!)
We did Icon on both our mares last year and have both a filly and colt foal (but Chestnut). Having been up close to Icon, I love his temerament and he is so easy to handle - credit to Suzanne Keevil his owner.
I love Icon and where the filly has followed him exactly, the colt has great resemblence in structure to Idolo (Icon's sire).
Piccy of Icon and our 2 foals at http://www.tackshop-online.com/News.htm
Treliver Decanter is an idea and has the Donnerhall line which is so proven.
 
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I have just been looking at him!! He is lovely. Also, he is just down the road from me as I am 10 mins from Addington too! Who is the HHoer that owns him? I'd love to go and see him.

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PM Bananaman - they might know, as my brain is definately not firing on all cylinders today.
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I have just been looking at him!! He is lovely. Also, he is just down the road from me as I am 10 mins from Addington too! Who is the HHoer that owns him? I'd love to go and see him.

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A couple on here have youngsters by him too, I've got the DVD of him - (Decanter) and he is gorgeous and moves beautifully. Had I been closer, I'd have really seriously considered him for my mare.
 
I have a Decanter baby due out of my Polish Wb this year and have also seen Vangelis in the flesh and he is very impressive. Unfortunately my little buckskin mare didn't play ball last year so isn't in foal to him but I do have a free return to decide who to use it on!
 
Rainbow Rider as Sacha says my Decanter baby is still cooking inside Lola so I don't know what colour s/he is yet! Due in APril so not too long to wait!

My avatar pic is of my boy Ghost - he's a few spot Knabbie who will be covering his first mares this year - can't wait to see what he produces from my Trakehner mares!
 
Does anyone know if the Cremello stallion Vangelis is standing at stud? I saw from the Colourthyme website that he has been sold but cannot find if he is still offered at stud elsewhere
 
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