Out of date jabs- anyone else had this problem?!

[Zinedine04]

Last year I had 2 youngsters imported from Holland so needed to start all their tet and flu again to comply with British regulations. When one of the horses was due its jab I noticed the previous one had been administered 2 months after the expiry date, so while there the vet apologised and said he'd not charge me for the call out fee or having to jab the horse.

Just booked in for the 3rd jab of the other horse only to notice the 1st jab was also out of date (again by months not days) so that voids the 2nd one meaning I'm going to have to start the whole course again!

Beginning to get more than a little annoyed that a vet cannot check a simple date and I'm having to pay ridiculous amounts to repair their mistakes

Anyone else ever had this problem? Not sure where I stand in making them fix the mistake they caused.

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

I ballsed up my mares not once but twice and to start again. It is annoying and expensive mistake

 

[Rowreach]

If the vet administered an out of date vaccine I'd be expecting him to do whatever to sort it out.

 

[ILuvCowparsely]

sorry i misread.


The vaccine out of date. Not your problem vet should re doo the first two free and you just pay for last one.

 

[applecart14]

I've been out by just a day and told I had to start the whole course again. Costly mistake but I needed a full clean record for the riding club team stuff I did, and had to start the course again. As it happened the steward at the BE event I took part in was checking all horses passports/flu tet records so I'm glad I got it done. He had a crib sheet and looked at the date your horse first had his vacinnation and then checked his crib sheet to check the date that the second and third vacs were done by, it was quite an in depth check and he was very through. This was about six years ago, so not sure if its the same now.

 

[tiggybeans]

It's still the same now! The passports get checked very carefully at Riding Club area events - they have a chart where they check that the date of the booster falls within 364 days of the last jab and if it doesn't you aren't allowed to compete.

Having been checked at an event in November, in December I completely forgot about my horse's annual booster -which was due Dec 22 - and I didn't get a reminder from my new vet. I then had to start the course again, even though it was only five days past the date. This means one jab, then another 21-92 days after the first, then another between 150-215 days after that. Then the annual booster!

I have now gone back to my old vet who used to send out reminders!

It's really annoying.

 

[Rowreach]

It's not that the dates were wrong, it's that the vet administered an out of date batch of vaccine (the expiry date is on the little sticker that goes in the passport next to the date/signature/stamp of the vet).

Therefore it is entirely the vet's fault that the vaccinations are invalid.

 

[Jools1234]

i am confused was the vaccine itself out of date or was the vaccine given after the date it was due to be given?

 

[tiggybeans]

Sorry, completely misread.

That's even more annoying, and surely something your vet shouldn't charge you for the vaccinations that it takes to get you back to the point you were at!

 

[Zinedine04]

Yes the batch of flu & tet were out of date not me getting the dates wrong!

Concerned that there may be other horses they have given jabs to that are wrong not just mine? It was only me reading their passports and noticing on the stickers that they over 2 months out of date (why I was reading them I still don't know!!) and thinking many other people using the same clinic won't have noticed. After all when your calling a fully trained vet out your assuming them to check things like expiry dates :/

 

[Kayfamily]

Can you let me know which vets practice please, pm if you prefer.

 

[Zinedine04]

Sent you PM kayfamily

 

[onemoretime]

Last year I had 2 youngsters imported from Holland so needed to start all their tet and flu again to comply with British regulations. When one of the horses was due its jab I noticed the previous one had been administered 2 months after the expiry date, so while there the vet apologised and said he'd not charge me for the call out fee or having to jab the horse.

Just booked in for the 3rd jab of the other horse only to notice the 1st jab was also out of date (again by months not days) so that voids the 2nd one meaning I'm going to have to start the whole course again!

Beginning to get more than a little annoyed that a vet cannot check a simple date and I'm having to pay ridiculous amounts to repair their mistakes

Anyone else ever had this problem? Not sure where I stand in making them fix the mistake they caused.

Amongst a number of other things wrong with a horse I purchased in September last, his jabs had gone over due and I had to start them again this was down to the dealer who had kept him for 6 months and should have realised.

 

[Jools1234]

i would just go in to the practice and speak to them if they are close to you, if not write to them and ask them to cover the cost of bringing your vaccs up to date with a local vet

 

[star]

that's their problem, not yours. I always check the expiry date before I give a vaccine. Talk to them about it but they should be fixing this for you - if reluctant make your complaint official.

 

[Venevidivici]

None of the vets we use send out booster date reminders either-pity,as have missed the date by days before. I wonder why they don't all send out reminders...the cynic in me would suggest its a nice little earner when people need to restart the course and pay for 3more visits&medicines,instead of one....

 

[Maesfen]

None of the vets we use send out booster date reminders either-pity,as have missed the date by days before. I wonder why they don't all send out reminders...the cynic in me would suggest its a nice little earner when people need to restart the course and pay for 3more visits&medicines,instead of one....

Surely it's not beyond owners to work out their own dates for jabs due and put them in their diary/computer so they don't forget; it's plain idleness on their part not to work it out for themselves, it's simple enough.

As to OP, I'd be marching into the practise with the passports and demanding they put things right at no charge to yourself. If you hadn't noticed imagine how frustrating and embarrassing it would have been to have been turned away from an event/show/rally not to mention the wasted expense of the journey to it. I'd be hopping mad that the vet or his nurse didn't check it as a matter of course before he even put the vaccines into his car.

 

[Venevidivici]

^^^ Do do this but on that occasion,other events at the time caused it to get overlooked.:-/ My dog's vet has always sent out booster reminders but then, if the dog misses a date,they don't get to triple their money,so doesn't hurt to remind when it comes to the dog,does it?

 

[lizness]

I worked at a vets and the whole reminder issue is a bit of a problem. We try and send reminders out a month before. The reminders have a bit at the bottom to say that we cannot be responsible for out of date vaccines. The reminders run off a computer system so there is room for error or if one got lost in the post etc. They should not be relied on, is it so difficult to write the date on a calender or put a reminder on an iphone or computer?

We put which month that they are due but this led to problems because people complained thart they did not have a date on. It really needs to be the owners responsibilty, you need to remember your mot etc.

p.s. This is not a dig at the original poster at all OOD vaccines should def not be used!

 

[Zinedine04]

Feel like people are missing the point of my post a bit here!!! I have 5 horses and have competed under FEI rules- I'm fully aware of the vaccination dates and never rely on the vets to send me a reminder especially as 2 of mine require them every 6 months not annually.

My concern in that in June, 2 of my horses were given vaccinations that had an expiry dates of April, therefore voiding the vaccinations they had after (due to the number of days needed between 1st, 2nd and 3rd jabs).

Got hold of the vet yesterday who was rather defensive and said they can't do anything until they have seen the passports and that the earliest they could get to me was Tuesday. Guess I'll have to wait until then to know if they will fix it and what action they will take to make sure this doesn't happen to anyone else.

 

[applecart14]

It's not that the dates were wrong, it's that the vet administered an out of date batch of vaccine (the expiry date is on the little sticker that goes in the passport next to the date/signature/stamp of the vet).

Therefore it is entirely the vet's fault that the vaccinations are invalid.

OMG I see - that's awful.

 

[HardySoul1]

Worrying - what other drugs have they used after expiry date? Sounds pretty sloppy. I work in the NHS and heads would roll if we let this happen!
They need to be correcting their error by doing all your jabs again at your convenience and free of charge.
Don't suppose the official vet bodies would look kindly on this either. They penalise vets for fiddling vaccination dates so out of date meds must be even worse!

 

[Racergirl]

In your situation, Id say they should re-start your vaccinations for you, and Id be pretty miffed if they didnt do the first two of each horses course for free.

As for the other issue that has popped up (the age old "who is responsible" thing) Its the owner (or keeper!) who is responsible for keeping a horses vaccinations up to date.To suggest vets dont send reminders becuse its lucrative for them not to is ridiculous - its not their responsibility to keep your horse up to date - they dont compete it, so why should they worry !!!

 

[SusieT]

In your situation i woudl ring the practice and explain what has happened and expect them to redo the 1st two free of charge and go from there. If they don't want to do that (it's entirely their fault!) then i would be starting formal complaining!

 

[Venevidivici]

I never said it was the vet's responsibility to send reminders (err, you'd have to be seriously lacking to have to hand them the responsibility for that). I commented that they send them for the DOG and CAT,so why can't they for the horse?? I never said that it is (or should be) the vet's responsibility as opposed to the owner's.Just a musing...jeez... :-/