over horsed

[cobsrule!]

following on from the thread about seeing so many people selling their horses and not seemed suitable, had anyone simply said on the ad - i have over horsed myself? would you be worried it would put people off or do you think it would attract (experienced) people because your being honest?

as sometimes ones over horsed horse is someone elses ideal horse and they see nothing wrong with it, also do you expect the price to be lower because they have over horsed themselves so are seen as 'desperate' or do you think (if it is just suited to an experienced horse and not a nutter) it should not effect the price?

 

[HBrae2]

I don't think I've ever seen "over horsed" in an advert but you regularly see "wasted in current home" or "not experienced enough to bring him on to his full potential" which I think quite often would be for that reason (although not always). I wouldn't put it in an advert, I think people would read it and think I was scared of the horse and desperate to get rid of it! I would probably just specify that he is not suitable for a novice and say there is a genuine reason for sale. Then I would have an honest chat with any interested parties calling up about why I considered that he would be more suitable for someone else.

 

[Jnhuk]

following on from the thread about seeing so many people selling their horses and not seemed suitable, had anyone simply said on the ad - i have over horsed myself? would you be worried it would put people off or do you think it would attract (experienced) people because your being honest?

as sometimes ones over horsed horse is someone elses ideal horse and they see nothing wrong with it, also do you expect the price to be lower because they have over horsed themselves so are seen as 'desperate' or do you think (if it is just suited to an experienced horse and not a nutter) it should not effect the price?

I think people should admit that they are over horsed or simply that the horse is beyond their abilities/capabilities. However, I can think that the price in that situation would be lower than a similar horse who is being sold by a competent person. It also depends on the horse and their temperament and how long the overhorsed person has been dealing with the horse before they have decided to sell. They could have caused a great deal of problems in the short term which will take time to iron out by the 'new' owner so IMHO a lower price would be justified. The horse may have had several changes of owner/situation in the short term which will not help the situation.

In general, time means money so if the horse will take time to sort out/come good then a lower price will make it attractive to right sort of owner and ideally the seller needs to be responsible that they are selling on to someone with the right capabilities.

 

[Roasted Chestnuts]

i think a number of things cause people to over horse themselves.

Threads like ' am I too big for **.*hh equine' and the responses that are put on things like that cause it, Over confidence causes it, ignorance causes it and ambition causes it.

I would say vanity to have the latest 'in breed/type/discipline' does as well and its sad to read between the lines in adverts and realise that the horse is being sold because the owner made the mistakes not the neddy.

However ( ) sellers can contribute with misleading ads. If advert stated 'Overhorsed' i wouldnt look at the horse in a bad light at all, ones trash is anothers treasure after all

 

[NeilM]

In the short time (4 years) I have been involved with horses, I can count the number of people on one hand that I have come across who had the sense to admit they were overhorsed, and not just due to size. A weak rider on a Section D (or similar) can easily be overhorsed, and we bought Harry (who is 14.2hh) from a lady who fully admitted she had taken on a pony who was too much for her.

If I was in the market, I would certainly go and look at a suitable horse if the seller said they were overhorsed. For one, it could actually indicate that the seller was not a fantasist when it came to their ability and the ability of the horse, and that in itself is pretty rare.

 

[Mare Stare]

I've only seen one horse advertised as "over horsed". It was quite cheap and I was tempted but decided not to enquire in the end. The horse's advert ran for months and months so I'm thinking maybe the horse had an attitude problem not just an inexperienced rider.

 

[cobsrule!]

i have a cob x welsh (but lots of welsh traits im told) that im thinking of selling as he needs a more experienced rider and ive lost confidence on him, he isnt naughty just young and picking up on my fear

when trying to describe him for an ad i would describe him one way, but my friend (experienced) another, so it is difficult on how to say what, as from a more novicey point of view i would probably paint him in a different light

 

[Foxhunter49]

I think that the 'wasted in present home' and 'not experienced enough to bring on' are other words for 'Help! I am over horsed!'

Oddly enough if a horse is advertised as a 'bad 'un' you will get more replies than for a sane and sensible animal. There are always a lot of people who think they can cure anything!