Paracetamol Paste

Thank you. My horse is 550kg that means about 30+ tablets. For a few days this is nearly 90 tablets. I think I cant get it in the pharmacy.
 
Sorry I'm just being nosey as I've never heard of paracetamol being used for horses before. Why would you use paracetamol instead of one of the horse specific painkillers? Genuine question not a criticism in any way.
 
Hackback said:
Sorry I'm just being nosey as I've never heard of paracetamol being used for horses before. Why would you use paracetamol instead of one of the horse specific painkillers? Genuine question not a criticism in any way.
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You can use it for short term for pain, mine had it for laminitis alongside Danilon.
 
Hackback said:
Sorry I'm just being nosey as I've never heard of paracetamol being used for horses before. Why would you use paracetamol instead of one of the horse specific painkillers? Genuine question not a criticism in any way.
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meleeka said:
You can use it for short term for pain, mine had it for laminitis alongside Danilon.
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Exactly the same for me, vet told me to give it alongside Danilon.
 
Tricky, 20mg per 1kg bodyweight for best effect = 11grams max 12 hourly= 44 tabs (500mg) daily.
You can get 100 tabs for £6 but you would need to buy from multiple pharmacies.
Bute or aspirin might be cheaper and more effective.
Friend used 20 paracetamol tabs daily with good effect for 550kg highland for a while but she struggled to get enough paracetamol after a bit.
 
This might not be too popular, but :
If you personally know anyone ‘elderly and infirm’, who is routinely prescribed paracetamol as part of their meds which they only infrequently use?
Not as delinquent as it sounds, both my parents (now deceased) were in this category, with DRAWERSFULL of drugs including paracetamol they didn’t want, which drugs cannot be given to another human patient, and only be returned to a pharmacy for destruction - a colossal waste, and the GPs wouldn’t take it off the repeat prescription because they did both occasionally use it.
Apparently very common (from speaking with social care staff), at least one nursing home donates unwanted paracetamols and unopened dressings to an animal sanctuary!
 
Exasperated said:
This might not be too popular, but :
If you personally know anyone ‘elderly and infirm’, who is routinely prescribed paracetamol as part of their meds which they only infrequently use?
Not as delinquent as it sounds, both my parents (now deceased) were in this category, with DRAWERSFULL of drugs including paracetamol they didn’t want, which drugs cannot be given to another human patient, and only be returned to a pharmacy for destruction - a colossal waste, and the GPs wouldn’t take it off the repeat prescription because they did both occasionally use it.
Apparently very common (from speaking with social care staff), at least one nursing home donates unwanted paracetamols and unopened dressings to an animal sanctuary!
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This makes my blood boil. (not you Ex) One of many reasons the NHS is in trouble. My mother went through cancer treatment before she died. The nurses would bring bags of dressings and medications to her home, and leave them with 'just in case' . Of course she didn't use them, and as you say, it isn't possible to re-issue / prescribe them, so we were told to bin them. I now have bags full of dressings for my horses. The colloidial dressings are fantastic! But the cost must have been huge :(

At least some nursing homes are donating them rather than binning them.
 
Cragrat said:
This makes my blood boil. (not you Ex) One of many reasons the NHS is in trouble. My mother went through cancer treatment before she died. The nurses would bring bags of dressings and medications to her home, and leave them with 'just in case' . Of course she didn't use them, and as you say, it isn't possible to re-issue / prescribe them, so we were told to bin them. I now have bags full of dressings for my horses. The colloidial dressings are fantastic! But the cost must have been huge :(

At least some nursing homes are donating them rather than binning them.
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Its mad isn't it. I remember a friend clearing out a house after an elderly relative died and the amount of medical kit was crazy. All unused bandages and dressings etc mountains of it.
I personally have some fairly expensive (if i were to buy privately) asthma medication and I had to ask the chemist recently to stop ordering it for me. they were giving me two months of prescriptions every two weeks for a while. It will get used up as I've told them that i will order myself when I've used the stacks of unopened boxes i have.
 
Hackback said:
Sorry I'm just being nosey as I've never heard of paracetamol being used for horses before. Why would you use paracetamol instead of one of the horse specific painkillers? Genuine question not a criticism in any way.
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I've been advised by vet to use for laminitis when pony wasn't comfortable on the danilon alone, thankfully I worked in a shopping centre at the time so was able to go to Sainsbury's/poundland/superdrug/boots and pick up enough packets on the way home from work 🤦🏼‍♀️😂
 
It’s insane, blithe, routine insanity.
Given all the war-torn areas, bombed hospitals in Gaza etc, where people are desperate for clean water, never mind drugs and dressings - just WRONG.
Apparently UK govt can’t sanction sending ‘previously issued’ medical supplies even to disaster zones, they all have to be incinerated. Heigh-ho.
Anyway, if you do know such patients who genuinely aren’t using their paracetamol allocations (and if pensioners, they won’t have paid for their meds), might be as well to ask on behalf of your horse?
 
druid said:
BOVA were making a paracetemol paste during the paracetemol tablet shortage in Covid, Might be what you are looking for? Your vet would need to source it, if it is still in production
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They still make it, although it is relatively expensive. They also make a powdered version (and I think Coppax do too) which is far more economical.
I can't imagine having enough time available to drive round shops every day to buy enough tablets, and crushing them when there is a reasonably priced powder formulated specifically for horses in a tubs big enough to do a couple of weeks!
 
I found horses ate the tablets OK if they were in a mash - & I was feeding a 650kg horse.

If your vet will do a prescription without a ridiculous surcharge then you can get large pots of it.

I did get an elderly lady's stash too. I was on livery with her daughter who said she had some surplus and was worried about leaving it in the house in case of accidental overdose. I was expecting a couple of packets and got a bag full.

Like in humans it acts differently to bute / ibuprofen so sometimes if bute isn't hitting the mark its worth a shot.
 
A friend has her horse (a 16.2 trakhener so a decent size) on a maintenance dose and she only gives her something like 12 tablets a day so it might be worth checking with your vet to see if a lower dose is viable. It's the legal limit on the number you can buy without a prescription that makes it tricky and pharmacies will notice if you keep going back for more and start asking questions. There's nothing wrong with what you're doing but it's a pain in the backside if a local pharmacy that's convenient if you need them at the last minute won't sell them to you. Supermarkets are best as you'll get served by different people all the time. She never leaves a shop without buying the maximum number of tablets possible.
 
My horse was prescribed paracetamol when he couldn't tolerate danilon any longer. He had 40 x paracetamol tablets a day and also had psyllium husk to help to protect his gut. Unfortunately it was at the start of Covid and there was a worldwide shortage of Paracetamol, which was awful timing, as sourcing the tablets was very difficult as they were being so strictly rationed. It wasn't sustainable, and as an elderly horse anyway with a number of other issues, it was the right time to let him go. 😟
 
Pearlsasinger said:
UK GPs won't prescribe paracetamol now, because it can be bought easily over the counter. I think in a few special cases they may make an exception.
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??!? gosh - which ones? Round here they certainly do, maybe not for younger patients who generally pay for prescriptions, but older / infirm patients - social care and nursing home staff are still inundated with the stuff!
 
SEL said:
I found horses ate the tablets OK if they were in a mash - & I was feeding a 650kg horse.

If your vet will do a prescription without a ridiculous surcharge then you can get large pots of it.

I did get an elderly lady's stash too. I was on livery with her daughter who said she had some surplus and was worried about leaving it in the house in case of accidental overdose. I was expecting a couple of packets and got a bag full.

Like in humans it acts differently to bute / ibuprofen so sometimes if bute isn't hitting the mark its worth a shot.
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Sounds familiar, the amounts of paracetamol prescribed for both my parents (on top of all their other meds), were industrial, and far more than I could have legally bought for them in a pharmacy without prescription. I also know social and residential care workers, who say this is pretty standard issue for many of their clients.
 
3 for a pound in Pound land, not sure how they're allowed to sell three packs when everyone else can only sell 2 packs per transaction.

16 in a pack. Go in with some friends and each buy three.

I am on 6 ibuprofen a day so get through them quickly. I buy mine from Aldi. I put 2 in my basket, 2 in Mum's basket and 2 in my partners basket. As long as you pay separately you could have 100 packs. It's a stupid rule.
 
Pearlsasinger said:
UK GPs won't prescribe paracetamol now, because it can be bought easily over the counter. I think in a few special cases they may make an exception.
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Some do, some don’t.
Next door is unable to stop getting a huge pack every month, in spite of both him and his daughter pointing out if he took as much as he got he’d be liver less.
 
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