PARELLI??? HOW ABOUT A SURVEY ON

Is that where you tie bandages around your horse's bottom? Sounds like fun
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In one way it's encouraging that so many people want to improve their empathy with their horses, but good old fashioned horsemen and women do it naturally and can teach you much more sensible ways with a lot less money involved!
 
I don't know which one has the clicker training thing, but can never understand why you would need a clicker in your hand when you can make a click with your tongue! In fact IMHO they are all common sense and a matter of watching your horse. We did 'ground work' with ours years ago, but never thought to write a book about it lol
 
TTEAM isn't the same as clicker training. I have clicker trained my intelligent but obstinate mare for certain tasks such as picking up her feet and it really works. I do use a clicker because try as a might I cannot click with my tongue and it needs to be a specific noise that marks the behaviour rather than a general comment such as good girl which you might say any number of times a day. I didn't rad the book, just taught myself having read a few websites but as far as clicker training goes I would say don't knock it till you've tried it.
 
One girl we had at our yard used to make us all laugh, she was very into "ground work" and especially join-up, and was always so chuffed that her horse followed her around the school when loose instead of buggering off. Of course he was a lazy sod anyway, and I would put money on the fact that he wouldn't follow her if she wasn't the one to give him his dinner every night! My horse comes to call... only because I trained her with food! And don't get me started on clicker training, fair enough for dogs but horses just aren't the same type of "pet"... *sigh* whatever happened to just "getting on with it"??!
 
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One girl we had at our yard used to make us all laugh, she was very into "ground work" and especially join-up, and was always so chuffed that her horse followed her around the school when loose instead of buggering off. Of course he was a lazy sod anyway, and I would put money on the fact that he wouldn't follow her if she wasn't the one to give him his dinner every night! My horse comes to call... only because I trained her with food! And don't get me started on clicker training, fair enough for dogs but horses just aren't the same type of "pet"... *sigh* whatever happened to just "getting on with it"??!

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Have to say that I must be a happy clapper then! I do groundwork with Spring to improve her manners and place myslef above her in the pecking order. When I got her she had no respect for her handler, would pull me over and generally be rude and bolshy. Using body-language and groundwork means that she now has impeccable manners and has never been bribed with food. There is a difference I think to commanding respect using body language, common sense and horsemanship compared with carrot sticks and playing games! Just my opinion though and what has worked for my horse!
 
Personally I don't have a problem with Tteam or Ttouch work, Ttouch is similar to massage so good for the horse as well as relaxing. Tteam is good for helping horses coordinate and improving their confidence and as basic groundwork training. I have studied the methods and they seem to have a lot more scientific theory behind them then most natural horsemanship type techniques. The lady who invented it studied and worked with horses for decades before coming up with her system, and it is is not a rigid thing like parelli. Also it is generally seen as a complementary thing to the horses normal ridden work, rather than a be all and end all, and there is far less potential for abuse then in several other systems.
 
I don't know enough about Tteam to comment *makes note to wander off and educate self* but I have and do use Clicker training for various things. I taught a dangerous arab who reared on the lunge to do it on command, then stopped giving the command, no more rearing. I also use it (without treats) to train all mine to ground tie, back up in the stable when I open the door, pick up feet in turn etc, just simple manners.

It works for me (sometimes, some horses look at me as if I've lost my marbles, so we try anther way) but I would never dream of saying "Right you lot, stop what you are doing NOW, my method works best!" If a method works for you, and your horse, whatever it is, clicking, NH, Tteam etc or dancing naked under the quarter moon chanting incantations in your garden then great, you've cracked it. (Now, quick, go and write a book
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) As far as I'm concerned, there is no one right way and I'll at least read about something before I feel I can comment on it.
 
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