parelli??

[Ellz]

i love parelli.but am i loner??be brutal what are your opinions on it>>do you think it is just a load of circus tricks or am i not a loner and am not the only person who really feels a benefit from it in the fact that my relationships with my horse are a lot better??tell me!!ella xox

 

[bobz1305]

I was a bit of a non believer but I won a competition a few years ago which meant I got some time with a professional from new zealand who managed to get my youngster, who refused to go anywhere alone (to the point where i had a nasty fall when he reared) to go on a hack! I found it so helpful although slightly bazaar!! I have also had the same experience with a horse 'communicator' and am a believer in that now too which is even more strange as she actually had a conversation with my horse!!
If you believe it works then it doesn't matter what others think really

 

[Tinkerbee]

Load of crap :smirk:

Better off posting in the new lounge

you'll get more of a fight in there :grin:

Common sense, with a dash of hippiness, grossly overpriced and then marketed to idiots



what? you said be brutal :grin:

 

[JenHunt]

been working on the parelli stuff with my horse, and i do feel its making a difference. he's not a very affectionate horse, even with his 'best friend' and is quite dominant, but he's slowly getting the hang of not being allowed to be in charge with me, and is starting reciprocate when i scratch itchy spots for him.
i'm sure that a lot of it is common sense repackaged, but in a way that makes it easier to be successful with it.

 

[Chestnut_filly14]

Agree that it is common sense repackaged - but seen it on the telly and very interesting. Would like to do that if I ever got a horse. But as I believe Chris Bartle (I think it was him) said a while back in an old H&H all riders use a degree of natural horsemanship anyway.

You can't get anywhere long-term by force anyway.

 

[donnaharvey]

i use the parelli method and it really works. i have fun with my horse. i do still keep a open mind to all other methods but parelli's is my may training plan.
also the training days with parelli are brill. you learn something new everytime and you met like minded people.
i think people who slag off parelli are narrow minded- if they dont want to try it or cant afford it than thats fair enough but dont knock it till u've tried it. dont get me wrong i do sometimes feel i a div holding a "carrot stick" but if it works for me and my horse, it cant be that bad- can it?!

 

[Shannagolden]

What's common sense about shaking heavy leadropes in horses faces and humiliating them with dumb circus tricks. Animal rights sweet hearts used to try to ban circus tricks until Pat Parelli re-worded everything to include, 'partnership' 'harmony' carrot-stick''loyalty rope' and other such sentimental gibberish!

Translations for the above: dominance, subservience, lunge whip, rope

 

[PaddyMonty]

A good excuse not to ride your horse.

 

[MadMacher]

I must admit I have mixed feelings about it all.
Some good some bad.

 

[AmyMay]

I've actually been watching it a bit on the tv. And have to admit to being really quite impressed with what some people are achieving. However, It's not for me, as I don't need my horse to do 'party tricks'. If it's your thing though - great.

The riding aspect I think is different though. From what again I've seen on the box - those demonstrating the riding aspect of perelli (sp) are in themselves very, very good riders - and are getting a wonderful tune out of their horses. I think that the majority of these riders have been classicly trained - and are adapting one skill with another and visa versa.

Seeing some people plodding round my village who are obvious exponents of the theory - I see no benefit to them at all. Horses look bored, listless, uncoordinated - and riders look like scruffy buggers. There seems to be no pride in their appearance at all. Horses are ridden with bits of string - God help them if there's an accident.

 

[Miss Tipps]

A good excuse not to ride your horse.

I love Parelli!!

Does my avatar (and my recent pics in the gallery) look like I'm looking for an excuse not to ride my horse

 

[Bedlam]

Parelli IS just commonsense, and most good riders will do most of what he teaches anyway - the Parelli lot are only too quick to tell you that themselves.

I think it's great personally, especially when it's mixed with 'normal' riding. The groundwork in particular is essential in my mind to ensure that horses have manners and respect.

All the 'natural' or 'intelligent' horse people are essentially the same. The difference with Parelli is that he has tried to put what hye's trying to say and do in a pack format so that everybody else can try to understand too. There's nothing wrong with that. It costs money, but so does everything to do with horses tbh.

People get very het up about it, but it works, so there....!

 

[PapaFrita]

Very well said Bedlam I'm sure it can be very useful for people who are inexperienced/nervous/other. HOWEVER, I have to say that there are rather alot of Parelli 'Evangelists' who do themselves absolutely NO favours by preaching that NH is the ONLY way and that we're all cruel and our horses hate us... There isn't just ONE way to train a horse.

 

[donnabubs]

As with all 'alternative' methods, there are detractors, there are those who fervently beleive in it no matter what, and there are those who take a healthy interest and keep things in perspective.

A lot of people find it helps. The circus tricks, as you referred to them, do generally relate to some activity you might need your horse to do while in the saddle - side passing, walking over bridges, yielding to pressure, stopping when you want them to etc.

A lot of people have many years experience with many horses and have therefore had the opportunity to develop their 'common sense' about how to read horses and work with whatever behaviour they present. Some have great understanding of horse behaviour as an innate characteristic. the rest of us choose to live in ignorance or seek guidance. Who you seek it from is up to you. Parelli is good for me, but not for everyone.

One thing is for sure - most people dont do Parelli, and so you will be in the minority which can be difficult. You do get funny looks (at the very least) when you are doing your rope wiggling and stick waving.

Lots of instructors can give you advice on how to improve relationships with horses, if you ask them - but we generally just ask them to teach us how to jump spreads or do flying changes dont we?

Donna

 

[ghosthooves]

I think in some cases it can be useful but I don't think it suits everyone and I think it is overpriced for what it is. I've seen some of the programme and I think some of it is interesting, and I might be tempted to try bits and pieces when I get my own horse, but other things they have on there just make me think wtf?
Very put off by the fact that a lot of horses I've seen on there have their ears back the whole time

And Linda's riding... :crazy:

 

[Fantasy_World]

Well I have just started Parelli with my two horses and both ( especially Mcfly) are responding well to it.
I won't necessarily be taking everything to do with Parelli on board, just some of it. Whatever will help me, my partner, my daughter and finally my horses training, respect, attitude and enjoyment is what I hope to achieve by utilising some of the methods employed.
I won't ask any of my horses to do something they are not entirely comfortable with and won't be teaching 'party tricks' unless it helps to desensitise them to situations and objects.
I will continue to ride both horses bitted and have no desire to use the bosal, or natural horse collar/rope method to ride as I want to school and jump both mine and I personally don't believe you can full control of a horse in just a halter when riding. That is not to say anyone's method of riding is wrong and I have friends who ride very successfully in that way. But it is not for me personally.
I am not a conformist or swayed by trends at all but after hearing positive results of using parelli from friends I have decided to give a go in using methods that I feel either my horses or me and their riders will derive the most benefit from.
Caz

 

[the watcher]

Not sure about the relevance to hunting - unless the Parellis are going to be the quarry.


Even I would pay to watch that

 

[PaddyMonty]

Not sure about the relevance to hunting - unless the Parellis are going to be the quarry.


Even I would pay to watch that

Watch it? Hell I'd join the hunt for first time in 15 years

 

[jinxy]

I agree with what was said further up that every one uses natural horsemanship, whether thats what they call it or not.

My horse wouldn't load, I wanted to compete so we practiced! but that is just common sense, I wouldn't have called it natural horsemanship, but which alot of people would class it as.

Alot of the things people would do using common sense are now labelled as natural horsemanship which I don't feel is right.

At the end of the day regardless of what people think of each others approaches we all deal with horses on a daily basis horses are big and strong and if they think that we are (not sure if this is the right word) weaker or further down the pecking order (that might be a better one) we have a problem.

I have seen some of the things that they do and did think that some of it was very impressive, I don't agree that people use ground work as a substitute for riding.

Why does everything have to have a lable or brand? What is wrong with common sense?

Phew finished! not sure if that all made sense

 

[henryhorn]

I so agree, hunting parellis would be fun...I would need a carrot stick however to loop round their necks once caught..
I flicked on to channel 280 yesterday and saw a parelli demo, in the end I switched it off I got so cross.
They were attempting to back a horse through some barrels I think , and this idiot woman was leaping about like a flea. the poor horse was totally and utterly confused, not sure if it was supposed to be lungeing as they kept running it along the arena wall, going backwards or what.
Eventually Mr Parelli took over and the horse walked backwards, banging into the barrel first.
I am sorry I couldn't for the life of me see the point, a horse walks backwards if you teach it to move away from a hand on it's chest and the command back..
Why half lunge, wave the lunge line like a snake etc?
Yes, let's have a parelli hunt, I promise I'll come!