Passport issues - update old one or start again?

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PolarSkye

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Kali is a Polish sport horse. His (Polish) passport was issued to him by the Wielkopolski Breed Society in 2005 but is woefully incomplete - there's no information on his dam or his sire, it doesn't say when he was born (or where), but it does say that he's a gelding so we know that it wasn't issued when he was born. Since the passport was issued and Kali was imported to the UK (we don't know when) his passport has never been updated - although we know he had at least two owners in the UK before us. The only vaccination records in the passport are from us and his previous owners - nothing before that.

I need to get his passport sorted as we want to start competing him - plus I just don't feel right not having my name in his passport. I can either contact the Polish issuing authority and send off the tear out form in the back of the passport (tricky as it's all in Polish), or I can just start again. What would you do? Also, if I get a new passport issued by the BHS (or any other issuing authority) do I have to relinquish his Polish passport?

Thanks in advance.

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You have to deal with the polish passport issuer it would be illegal to get a new passport. Most of the car wash staff are Polish around here try your local car wash. JS PIO
 
My Sam is konik cross polish tb and has a polish passport. he was imported aged 7 ,5 and a half years ago. I enquired extensively (on here and elsewhere) and was advised to not send passport back to poland as I probably wouldn't see it again. I even tried phoneing polish passport authorities , his english much better than my polish! in the end I just kept his passport as it was , vets just keep filling it in each year. Have competed and everything was fine , no-one cared. Remember the passport is not proof of ownership , only the bill of sale proves you own the animal , and if you were competeing a horse for someone else (as most of the top riders do) your name would not be on the passport. I personally would think it was much more fishy if I viewed a horse whose passport was new.
 
I may stand corrected here, but I was always told that you have 31 days from purchasing a horse to transfer the passport into your name to satisfy DEFRA. Also that the passports must now by law include pages regarding medications administered to prevent animals entering the food chain whilst medications are still in their bodies. I had to send off my passport to KWPN (thankfully very efficient) and they issued me a new replacement passport to fulfil the new DEFRA regs and inserted the pages of my original passport into the back of it so that everything was very clear and legitimate.

I do know someone who has a polish warmblood who came with no passport and was trying to sort it all out with a polish register and going round in circles. I'll ask her if she got anywhere and if so how she went about it.

TBH it is extremely stupid to bring in these new regs when there is such difficulty with getting hold of these societies abroad to renew passports (some societies have even wound up and gone bust!). There really needs to be a UK database alternative...
 
If you can't contact the Polish passporter easily then as long as it has a sketch and matching description of the horse in it perhaps a simpler way would be to overstamp it with something like the SHBGB? Ring them and find out if that's possible, it's what I would try rather than risk losing it abroad.
 
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