Patterdale again...

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Is anyone interested in him? He's free to good home, not my dog but he will be shot in the next week of nobody wants him
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Excellent ratter, ideal farm dog.
 

I can't help I'm afraid, it maybe an idea to try posting this in Soapbox as it will be seen by more people. Good luck, hope he finds a home.
 
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i live in norfolk if you are willing to get him here i would have him,is he castrated??

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He's still got his bits! We're West Wales.
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Is he not rehomeable via a rescue charity? Dogs Trust, RSPCA, local dog rescue or breed rescue? Is there a particular reason why he would be killed i.e. aggressive?
 
Need more details on his 'problems'. I do know someone here in Somerset who works them so he might be interested.
 
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Need more details on his 'problems'. I do know someone here in Somerset who works them so he might be interested.

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He doesn't have any problems (has lived outside though), he just didn't make the grade regarding game bird protection.
 
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Is he not rehomeable via a rescue charity? Dogs Trust, RSPCA, local dog rescue or breed rescue? Is there a particular reason why he would be killed i.e. aggressive?

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No, he's not agressive, though growls at other dogs if they come near when its dinner time. Just would be put down as owner only has so many kennels and he's taking up space
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"Just would be put down as owner only has so many kennels and he's taking up space "


WHAT !!!! .....this makes me SO mad ....how dare his owner ( breeder ?) treat this living creature as just a tool of his trade
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- he has no business owning any kind of animal if he does not take full responsibility for the welfare of them for the rest of their nautral lives.... can you imagine the outcry if the show world did this ? unbelievable !!! - contact the RSPCA and get this poor animal taken away ASAP - no wonder the general public's view of those who participate in country sports is so condemning, if this is typical of the shooting fraternity's attitude to their dogs
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Need more details on his 'problems'. I do know someone here in Somerset who works them so he might be interested.

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He doesn't have any problems (has lived outside though), he just didn't make the grade regarding game bird protection.

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Thanks Severnmiles, I should see them over the next few days so will mention him to them. They already have two others and are used to thier 'little ways'!

I think they are grand little dogs so I hope he can find a new home.
 
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"Just would be put down as owner only has so many kennels and he's taking up space "


WHAT !!!! .....this makes me SO mad ....how dare his owner ( breeder ?) treat this living creature as just a tool of his trade
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- he has no business owning any kind of animal if he does not take full responsibility for the welfare of them for the rest of their nautral lives.... can you imagine the outcry if the show world did this ? unbelievable !!! - contact the RSPCA and get this poor animal taken away ASAP - no wonder the general public's view of those who participate in country sports is so condemning, if this is typical of the shooting fraternity's attitude to their dogs
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Milor thats the name of the game I'm afraid, working dogs, if not rehomed are better off pts rather than shut in a kennel all day long doing nothing. Its the same with hounds, people take fright at why they are shot at the end of their career or if they do not take to hunting, its the best place for them, they can't be re-homed and a life of sitting in kennels watching the main pack go off two/three times a week would send them to an early grave.

Working dogs aren't pets which I guess is why I said he'd be ideal as a farm dog, patterdales aren't like your average lab.

ETS: Show dogs could probably take to lounging on a sofa all day, I don't think a working dog would like that very much. Similarly like greyhounds, the guy that recently got fined 2k for putting them down, I think people were wrong to interfere, they showed a video of him(hidden camera) and he really was kind and used a humane gun. Now there is nowhere for the grehound fraternity to take retired/slow dogs they're likely to be dumped and face having their ears cut off because they're branded and could be traced back to the owners, I know where I would personally prefer them to go.
 
completely unacceptable in my book - the racing world is a good case in point - they also said originally that Greyhounds could not be rehomed when we now know that many thousands of them ARE rehomed very succesfully ( although sadly this is just a drop in the ocean compared to the tens of thousands that are killed every year ) - are we really saying that this is ok ? that animals can be bred and discarded in such a cavalier fashion ? - the dog world is - rightly - full of condemnation when puppy farmers do this to their worn out breeding stock - but they are simply discarding their 'tools of the trade' too - why then is it ok for the sporting set to view dogs in this way ?


Many, many of our traditional working breeds have gone on to make fantastic ( if active !) family pets - I know of plenty of border collies/Lurchers and indeed Patterdales from working lines that are succesful family members

It seeems to me that it is all too easy to solve the problem by killing off unwanted 'stock' rather than make an effort to find new homes or in the case of the racing world by breeding less !.

The world has moved on and like it or not such 'traditional' views will alienate many non - country folk and accelerate a ban on shooting etc - can you imagine the headlines if this was widely known ?
 
Greyhounds are pets, foxhounds that have lived in kennels and hunted as a pack cannot be re-homed this is fact and not presumptions.

It is also already widely known to the public and antis that hounds are destroyed when unable to hunt. Even a hound that has never lived in kennels is not a pet, walk a few pups and you'll understand what I mean.

And its not just dogs, racehorses too are discarded when they nolonger provide the entertainment that they were bought for. Check out the 'Abbatoirs' post in the Soapbox, its true, many owners won't wait 5 months for a minor injury and many would rather take £200 cash from the slaughterman than try and rehome their horse.

I'm afraid I would rather see that fella humanely dispatching the greyhounds than I would see them dumped to starve with their ear cut off. We have enough dogs in this world that need rehoming. Can you imagine trying to keep a patt or a foxhound or even a lurcher on a housing estate with numerous cats, I can imagine it now, and a lurcher/terrier has no qualms about taking next doors cat!

I personally don't like puppy farms, but I think they're right to put brood bitches down, what else would they do? Sit in a kennels all day? In the case of puppy farms they have never been pets so adapting to that life although not impossible is not ideal.

Someone in the abbatoirs post said they simply couldn't afford to pay livery for a horse to stay as an ornament, its no different in the racing world, even a horse such as Hello Dandy couldn't find a decent home after his racing days, the trainers don't keep the horses that can nolonger race so why should it be different in greyhound racing?
 
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"Just would be put down as owner only has so many kennels and he's taking up space "


WHAT !!!! .....this makes me SO mad ....how dare his owner ( breeder ?) treat this living creature as just a tool of his trade
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- he has no business owning any kind of animal if he does not take full responsibility for the welfare of them for the rest of their nautral lives.... can you imagine the outcry if the show world did this ? unbelievable !!! - contact the RSPCA and get this poor animal taken away ASAP - no wonder the general public's view of those who participate in country sports is so condemning, if this is typical of the shooting fraternity's attitude to their dogs
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I'm in no way supporting this person's choice to get the dog PTS if it is not rehomed, but please don't make such sweeping statements about the 'shooting fraternity'. We currently have 11 dogs who are working (or soon to be working) gundogs...all of them are much loved and will never want or need for anything. If you want a dog to perform a job to its full potential it can't be treated as a tool...any decent dog handler knows that and treats their dog with the very best.

There are numerous show breeders and handlers which keep dogs solely for this purpose and pass dogs on if they do not meet breed standard or take to showing well etc. I'm sure there are also still pups who are disposed of at a very young age because they don't meet breed standard.
 
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I'm sure there are also still pups who are disposed of at a very young age because they don't meet breed standard.

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Absolutely. For sure this happens.....white boxers, non-spotted dalmations......

....but not my lovely black
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"I'm sure there are also still pups who are disposed of at a very young age because they don't meet breed standard. "


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and this practice is roundly condemned by all good breeders -in fact most non-standard pups are sold as pets and NOT killed which is why you see white Boxers and black Malinois in the first place
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- yes I did make sweeping generalisations about owners of working dogs and I'm sure that in fact many many of them are caring responsible owners but ther remains a core of owners who have the attitude that an animal is not valuable if it's not useful to them -I'm not saying that they should keep them but for heavens sake why not try and rehome the dogs THEMSELVES rather than settle on the easy quick solution ?
 
There's always going to be some owners from every sphere of the dog world which don't treat their dogs in the way that we would like, but fortunately they are a minority. Its not fair to type cast people who work their dogs as not having their best interests at heart. At least working dogs are doing what they are bred to do and enjoy. I've seen numerous behaviour problems in dogs in pet homes that are all down to them being prevented from doing what they are bred to do....IMO thats not in the best interests of the dog.

This little patterdale is a working dog, he needs to be rehomed with someone who will give him the opportunity to work or at the very least a very experienced owner who will be able to chanel his energy into some other sphere. Putting him onto a pet home could be a recipe for disaster.
 
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This little patterdale is a working dog, he needs to be rehomed with someone who will give him the opportunity to work or at the very least a very experienced owner who will be able to chanel his energy into some other sphere. Putting him onto a pet home could be a recipe for disaster.

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Yes it could well be and the owner does look after his dogs really well, they do want for nothing. Certainly not RSPCA cases, just one needs rehoming as a farm dog/yard dog.
 
Probably a whole different debate but the situation with white boxers is slightly different. Some (but not all) are born congenitally deaf and that is why a lot of them are euthanased at birth.
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I can ask some people on another dog forum, if you like? They may have links - many of them work their dogs and might know someone who would be interested?

Don't want to post there without your permission though...

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Ooo yes, please go ahead. Thanks!
 
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Need more details on his 'problems'. I do know someone here in Somerset who works them so he might be interested.

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He doesn't have any problems (has lived outside though), he just didn't make the grade regarding game bird protection.

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That is exactly how and why I ended up with my patterdale x, he just didn't make the working grade, but proved to be a fabulous companion, if somewhat crazy, he thought he was a chainsaw and ate through trees and insisted on sleeping outside on the doorstep through all weathers! I had him for 12 years and S, if I was in Wales I would have had yours like a shot. Great little turbo charged dogs. I hope you manage to find a home for him.
 
Awww Enfys he sounded great! Thats what I mean though, they're outside dogs not lounging on sofa type doggies...and guess what?! He's found a home, he's off to our hunt kennels to keep the rats/mice and rabbits down
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Hi,

Really pleased to hear that he's found somewhere with a job to do, mine would have loved something like that, busy, busy,busy, but he didn't do to badly with us!
Perhaps oddly, even though he was the most hyperactive dog I've ever met (clockwork tail) he was brilliant with my daughter, her best pillow and playmate from when she was tiny, he would play with her for hours.
 
Have watched this thread from the start...such a shame it went "off key" so to speak!!!

So glad its worked out...good luck to the littel pattterdale in his new home.
 
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