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I think that as long as there will be a market, horses will be killed and/or transported in horrible conditions for meat.

This is in French, sorry. BEWARE as most of those links have EXTREMELY HARD to watch pictures on them... but please sign the petitions via the first links : they are to petition against horse-eating. BEWARE the last links are a horrible story about a mare who was killed in her field for meat... Horrible photos (I couldn't watch, the story suffices).

Parce qu'il y a des fous, d'une cruauté sans limite, parce que ça pourrait arriver à n'importe quel propriétaire, faites passer !

Soutenez l'action anti hippophagie, allez signer ces pétitions :
http://www.jenemangepasdecheval.com/petition1.php

http://www.fondationbrigittebardot.fr/site/petition.php?Id=349

http://www.feracheval.com/petition-hippophagie.php

http://www.lapetition.be/en-ligne/non-lhippophagie-175.html

http://www.spa.asso.fr/907-hippophagie.htm

Voici comment un monsieur a découvert l'une de ces juments haflinger, Quamille, au matin du lundi de Paques...

L'article :
http://www.lunion.presse.fr/index.php/cms/13/article/117392/

Des photos supplémentaires, attention elles peuvent choquer :
http://www.equi-blog.com/quamille
 
No amount of petitioning will stop other contries eating meat. Accept it.
 
OK - but actually am I alone in thinking that it's not logical to stop the consumption of horse meat?

I am against the transport of horses in awful conditions to abbattoirs, but even though I would chose not to eat horse personally, I can't think of a really good reason why other people sholudn't, anymore than I can think of why we shouldn't eat any other animal that isn't a carnivore (I think that's just wrong - so eating dogs, for example, I just don't get).

These petitions seem to be to stop people eating horse meat. I just don't think that that's the crime.

I have to say though that the last pictures and story are totally horrific. I just don't know what I would do if I found that one morning..........mind you - why is the guy happy to kneel next to the poor horse for a photo.....? Weird.
 
If people didnt try to change things my god we`d still be in the dark ages.

and No i wont " accept it" and neither will 31,000 other peeps by the look of the sigs
 
I have no problem with people eating meat, therefore logicaly I have no problem with people eating horse meat. I feel that it would be far better for people to join established campaigns for better treatment of animals being transported for slaughter. If everyone became vegetarian then there would be no call for sheep, cows etc to be kept and eventually these species would become extinct, with the consequent building on grazing land, as most of the upland grazing would be usesless for growing crops.
 
I Live in France and see it for sale in Super markets. A lot of french people wont eat it and it comes from Argentina.
Its the parisian twats who eat more.in fact the scum have a Horse meat club and its called PONEY-CLUB.

iM GONNA SIGN
 
as long as there is a market, people will eat cows, sheep, pigs, goats, chickens, rabbits, pheasants, grouse,....even cats and dogs...

i cant see what this can/would achieve??

the problem i persoally have with ANYTHING going to slaughter, is the way they are treated en-route and at the point of slaughter..
THESE are the things that need "petitioning".....
 
I cannot see the harm in signing this petition, this is the first time i have seen anything like this coming from France where there are loads fattening farms , in my view any petition for the wellbeing of our equines, wherever in the world it may be is worth signing, maybe it wont get anywhere.
One thing is certain it wont get anywhere if nobody signs
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Im shocked about the story of the haflinger, Quamille who was killed in her field for meat. Ok, other countries do eat horse meat and yes horses are imported etc and we should be campaigning to ensure the horses are transported as humanely as possible without suffering but for someone to go into someones field and kill their horse for meat???? I cannot get over it. From the pictures on the blog about her she was obviously a loved horse, i feel saddened about it. What is the world coming to? It is disgusting. I cannot imagine what the owner must have gone through.
 
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as long as there is a market, people will eat cows, sheep, pigs, goats, chickens, rabbits, pheasants, grouse,....even cats and dogs...

i cant see what this can/would achieve??

the problem i persoally have with ANYTHING going to slaughter, is the way they are treated en-route and at the point of slaughter..
THESE are the things that need "petitioning".....

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Totally agree. Why stop people eating horses
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Just because they are considered pets by a lot of people does not stop them from being a good food source.
 
I will sign any number of petitions to stop cruel and inhumane practices in the rearing of meat, or transportation of live animals over long distances, but eating horsemeat is a reality that is here to stay. What else would happen to all the racing wastage; the unwanted ponies etc? A lot of meat eaten in France is from the British racing industry. As long as any animal is treated well when it is alive, I don't give a hoot what happens to it once it is dead. It can be inside a Frenchman or inside a hound; same difference.
 
QR- I totally accept that if were my horse in the last picture I would be heart broken to see it like that however I take the horse was killed before the meat was removed?

If you took pictures of any abatoir(sp) i wouldnt be pleasant but so long as there is a market for all kinds of meat this type of thing will go on. I agree with whats been said above- it doesnt matter whether it is a horse, a cow, a pig
 
seeing whats happened in the states after slaughtering was banned and the lengthy journeys these horses now have to endure , i vote for well run abbatoirs in every county , i have 4 horses and NONE of them will ever be killed for consumption , they will all be put down at home , i can afford it... unfortunatly in the real world there are many owners who pass on the elderly the poorly bred and the lame to market , if they wern't bought for meat what would happen to them next?
as for that poor mare , nothing i have seen has affected me as much as that , those poor owners , i hope they catch the people who did that and send them to me , 5 mins is all i need
 
I agree with Maggie,my horse will not be used for "human consumption" and will be put down humanely at home and not sent away but i am lucky that iam able to afford that
I will not buy meat in the supermarket and i got no problem with people that chooses to eat meat BUT its the way horses are treated by the dodgy dealer and the markets that makes my blood boil,there is a standard for how cows,sheep and pigs are to be kept and treated and there are free range hens and the are are high lighting people about battery chickens,BUT WHERE IS THE STANDARD on how horses should be kept and treated ? They can be tiep up in pens,starved,beaten the list is long and horses are one of the "meat animals" that can be trained to work for the humans and will love its owner back
 
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You fight for what you believe in and dont let others tell you how you should think or feel,you dont have to accept anything if you dont like it......every voice counts.

Well done for posting the links, I have signed them all, some of the pics are a bit hard going tho!!
 
Surely the issue is not about if it is right for people to eat meat or not, the issue is the conditions and transportation of animals who are being sent for human consumption. I am a meat eater, although I have never eaten horse, knowingly, I have no problem with those that do. I am very willing to sign any petition, regardless of if its a horse, cow, sheep, pig, goat, chicken, duck, goose, turkey, quail etc when it is aimed at improving conditions for animals who are destined for human consumption. That is the real issue!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All animals should be given dignity in life even if that life is purely for the sole purpose of being served up on someones plate.

I actually think that the meat man does a service to some poor animals, that to be quite honest with you, are probably better off being put out of their misery.
 
I do not wish to offend, but there is something very wrong with that story about Quamille.

Firstly, I do accept that theft of livestock happens. They found a pile of offcuts near me where 20 something lambs were stolen and butchered then the remains dumped.

But why the hell take a single horse from a prominant home? There must be loads of places where you could find small herds of ponies that you could slaughter in a night. One horse for meat? There is no financial gain!

I'm sorry to admit there is a part of me that suspects there's more to Quamille's death than meets the eye. Tragic as it is, I can't believe it is totally for meat.
 
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dont let others tell you how you should think or feel

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Has anybody done that?
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i certainly haven't seen anyone do that...
 
Thank you to those that have signed its very clear there are serious issues regarding all animals worldwide which is why i support ALL animal welfare campaigns.

It saddens me to see people regarding the abbotoirs/markets as an easy way out to dispose of horses and ponies that have either served their purpose or should never have been bred in the first place.
Isnt it high time something was done to regulate breeding of horses and ponies so we can get out of this mess, a mess of our own making ?( i wont get into that , hey that deserves a thread of its own)

Back to my op , i am not putting anyones arm up their back here, i saw it and thought it worthy of a thread on this board if you dont want to sign it simply dont .
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Please do not turn this thread into another row ES is not in the wrong here
I WAS told to " Accept it" earlier on in this thread.
 
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I cannot see the harm in signing this petition, this is the first time i have seen anything like this coming from France where there are loads fattening farms , in my view any petition for the wellbeing of our equines, wherever in the world it may be is worth signing, maybe it wont get anywhere.
One thing is certain it wont get anywhere if nobody signs
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How is horse meat any different to cows or sheep? And why are you calling it a "fattening farm" when it would just be a "cattle farm" if it was for beef?

The issue you should be putting your efforts into is the conditions of transport of ANY animal to slaughter. There is far too much sentimentality over the consumption of horsemeat. At the end of the day, it is still meat. I have no problem with people eating horsemeat, like any other meat, as long as the animal is reared, transported and slaughtered in humane conditions.

What do you think will happen to those horses that would have been slaughtered for meat if it is stopped? Do you imagine they will all go to lovely homes and be looked after to the end of their days? No, there will just be a lot of crap, badly bred animals out there serving no purpose.
 
Well said CC. I have no problem with people eating any type of meat. The issue, as far as I'm concerned is the way these animals are treated prior to death, and this is the same for any animal bred for slaughter. If an animal is kept in reasonable conditions with good husbandry and a humane slaughter then what happens to the carcass after that is not really an issue for me.
 
There are unfortunate horses/ponies bred wild and also being bred on farms specifically for the meat trade because there is a demand.....so therefore - no demand no extra breeding!

They are sent abroad because in the UK very few ppl eat horse meat and so no business to profit from in supermarkets & restaurants....

Can ppl not comprehend this ...... THERE ARE HORSES & PONIES BRED SPECIFFICALLY FOR MEAT AS WELL AS THE SO CALLED CLEANING UP CRAP ONES....do ppl not understand what is being said here..... no demand no horse breeding for meat.

Would anyone ride a cow or a sheep in competitions, show jumping etc? If so please let me know as it would be very entertaining.

Are horses generally thought of as food?

Does anyone look at their horse/horses and think mmmh....dinner - I doubt it!! Because I certainly do not.
 
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