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I was wondering if you can help? I wormed my boys with Equest Pramox (Blue box) about 3 weeks ago now, i have notice one of my boys rubbing his tail did not think much of it then the other day i notice a worm in the pooh, after looking it up on the internet it looks like pinworm.

Would it be ok to worm them again with something like panacur 5 day course and clean everything the boys have been in contact with or should i phone the vet for advise??

I worm the boys regularly and pooh pick every day

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Hi, sorry to hear someone else having problems with pinworms, we did and it took a huge effort to get rid of them. The great news is that it is realitively cheap and easy to test for - your vets can do a selotape test - where they use selotape to collect a sample from around the anus then check on a slide. Shouldn't cost alot as only slide and microscope involved!

In the event of it then being positive there are several things that you would need to consider to ensure that they are totally eradicated including worming - our vets advised us not to share equipment including grooming between horses, creosote all fences at itch height, clean all boxes with detergent and generally ensure good hygeine between handling each horse.

We also then went the panacur route, with a further massive wormer at the end (I'm not going to name or give dosage as this is something your vet should perscribe!). In addition we painted something that I can't remember the name of under the tails - there is a recent paper which I'm not sure is fully published but the resistance is now well documented.

Good luck!
 
I know this is a few days old but I just ran a search under pinworms because it would seem mine has them. I also worm regularly and alternate between Equest and promax. I have been convinced that something was up with mine for a while but when he started itching his tail and I found a slight creamy discharge we were convinced that it was pinworms. I was concerned because I worm regularly, fields are poo picked daily etc. When looking at Promax and equest I found that Promax only kills of the adult pinworm and not the larvae so they are left to hatch. When you come around to your next worming it is then that you use Equest which does kill the larvae as well as the adult pinworm but it would seem that they are causing an issue well before he was due his Equest. I gave him an Equest last night to try and knock the issue on the head.
After researching like crazy to try and get to the bottom of this issue (excuse the pun) and decided upon giving him another Equest I went down to our local country shop to get one. When I went in one lady was buying 10 Equest and the lady behind the counter said that a lot of people have come in with the same issues and some people are bringing their worming programs closer together at the moment.
It would seem that this is another irritating result of our warmer November..! Until we have a decent frost which kills of a lot of the bacteria in the ground things like this are going to crop up.. we've had a number of issues with various bacterial infections with our horses this year. We have a very clean yard, clean fields, cleared of droppings daily and we're on sand so don't even get much mud! We have just spent the weekend clearing the fields of leaves and old wood in a bid to trying and prevent the EAM.. another thing to worry about!! Time for some frosty mornings me things!

P.s. - one other thing. having discussed worming with various vets and worming distributors IO have been informed that Panacur simply doesn't work in the south east any more and that worms have been resistant to it for some time. I was going to give mine a 5 day panacur but decided to go with the Equest - although I was only trying to target pinworms.
Hope that makes sense.. Anyone else experiencing this?
 
Really useful to read this thread thank you. Ive been suspecting a fellow livery of having pinworms for about a week now. We put the tail rubbing down to using a new shampoo prior to a competition but thorough cleansing out with medicated stuff still sint stopping the itch and he has now rubbed his cheeks and under the tail raw. Will suggest she speaks to the vet. We wormed recently with Pramox too.
 
My filly is tail itching like mad but I have resisted worming again as did Equest only 8 weeks ago.

Should I Equest again or should I panacur 5 day?

I poo pick daily but do have a boggy wet field :(
 
from what I have recently found out pramox (blue box) only kills the adult worm and its equest (green box) which kills both adult and larvae. I would use equest if you are trying to rid pinworms totally but 8 weeks isn't that long so maybe its worth a call to the vet. Theres some really good articles on this online.

I am not going to use panacur now because I've been told worms in the south east are resistant to it. i see you are from cornwall so maybe not.. I'd have a chat with your vet too?
 
That's interesting.. I'd gone with equest because it fits in with the worming pattern at out yard and it says it deals with both adult worms and larvae. I'll pm you now my contact details because I would be keen for more information on this.
Thanks :)
 
Borderreiver said:
Can I just say that Equest, though a great and valuable wormer is not the product of choice for treating pinworms. You need the more old fashioned wormers, yes Panacur is a good choice. This is because pinworm live in the back end of your horse and it is thought that the 'mectins' are absorbed before they reach that part of the gut. You are right that there is a lot of resistance to Panacur but in this instance we aren't talking about redworm, the normal horse worm, but pinworm, totally different.

We do free sellotape tests at Westgate Labs and have an info leaflet which I can email to anyone who needs it. Pinworm are hard to get rid of but at least not life threatening like proper horse worms. We have talked to hundreds of owners about them this year. I hope that helps.
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Totally agree with this.

A friend of mine has an elderly mare who had a devil of a job getting rid of them. The field is poo picked daily and all horses wormed at the same time. All three never leave the premises as they are all OAP's, all have living worm free on the same field for years, then suddenly one of them get pinworm. All three were treated mind!

People keep saying that it makes the horse itch. I HAVE TO STRESS THAT THIS IS NOT ALWAYS THE CASE. This mare did not scratch once, not in the field, nor the stable. She has the classic off yellowish discharge round the anus and worms on the poo. (These worms are not found IN the poo but on the outside of the little balls). She was immediately wormed with Ivermectin, which did nothing. The vet gave her an ivermectin injection, apparently not licensed for horses but he felt it was an appropriate treatment. It didn't work.

She was given 5 day panacur every 4 weeks for 3 months and this finally cleared them.

NOT ONCE DID SHE SCRATCH!!!

Anyway the vet said exactly what Borderreiver said. Modern wormers are ineffective at killing hind gut dwelling worms i.e. pinworms. The only wormers he recommended for this was Panacur and Strongid P.

As a precaution I have wormed my lot with Strongid P this year, next year I will return to Ivermectin / Moxidectin.
 
Oh no!!! I was seriously hoping that equest may help me. perhaps a 5 day panacur would be the answer then.. will have to have a chat again with the vet about this.. its been one thing after another at our yard... so frustrating!
 
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