planning permissoin to ride in you OWN feilds !!

[xapplex]

is there anyone out there that can help is this true ?

years ago you could do pretty much any thing in the feilds but now this is crazy

 

[ThePinkPony]

...are you sure...?

 

[GlamourPuss86]

Planning permission is for buildings. If you want to put a shelter up over a certain size then you will most likely need it, but to ride, providing that the land is arrable/ agracultural (My spelling is poor it's been a long day!) then as far as I'm aware you don't need to worry.

We ued to have a field shelter in ours but it was long before they got so sharp on things. I think it also depends what your local council are like, ie are they into everything or happy to leave things alone as long as they are not an eye sore or causing a problem.

Out of interest where did you hear about needing planning permission to ride in your fields?

 

[*hic*]

I'm not quite sure what you mean. Are you talking about needing change of use from agricultural or restrictions put on by the stewardship schemes?

 

[xapplex]

Yes very sure i can not ride in the feild or put jumps up or even one trotting pole unless i have permissoin

i have rented a farm for 30 years and we have towny's move in next door built a huge ******* **f house and now doing every thhing to get rid of us

 

[Nic]

There was an article in H&H re Jessica Mendoza being told that her family would need to apply for PP for change of use for their field as the had SJ's in it.

Ooh found it:

Article

 

[*hic*]

Yes very sure i can not ride in the feild or put jumps up or even one trotting pole unless i have permissoin

i have rented a farm for 30 years and we have towny's move in next door built a huge ******* **f house and now doing every thhing to get rid of us

Ah, your land is classed as agricultural then! You can ride in the field but putting any structures like jumps up is a bit of a funny one. We had a brief discussion with chairman of the Parish Council who agreed that it was only reasonable for us to put up scratching posts, shelters, shaded resting places (XC jumps) and "environment-enrichment" items (show jumps) for our sheep. Nothing further has been said.

 

[SplashofSoy]

Its sounds like your fields just jave general agricultural use for grazing which means thats all you can use them for this includes grazing of horses, this is the use most normal fields have had historically. If you want to ride, school, put jumps out etc this is equestrian use not grazing so planning permission for change of use is required.

 

[lhotse]

Get yourself some sheep to graze in the field. If they are constantly grazing, then the land is still being used for argricultural purposes.
Failing that, get yourself a caravan and some alpacas and stick two fingers up to your new townie neighbours!!

 

[xapplex]

sorry laughing as when i say jumps ...i mean two ends and one jump hardly a show jumping arena .. but this townie bloke needs shooting

and i only school in the feild twice a week why are some people sad

 

[kerilli]

yes, a grazing field is not for riding in, apparently. you have to apply for change of use to 'horseyculture' as the planners, unofficially, call it. utterly ridiculous imho.

 

[lachlanandmarcus]

Ironically in Scotland this means that you in theory cant ride in your own fields but can in everyone elses!! Probably why it doesnt get enforced much.

I would seriously think about sheep, good for the ground and if theres more of them than there are horses then you could argue that the horses are incidental to the agric use of the land.

Jumps are regarded as a bit of an eyesore by neighbours and planners tho, so if risking those, best to have XC ones in field boundaries, or have them dual purpose (large hayrack type etc), multi coloured SJs dont go down well. If you do have SJs you may have to put them out and then away again each time.

 

[hollyandivy123]

i think there is something about change of use if it has gone unchallenge for 10yrs, then no one can complain there was a post on the forum a month or so ago but i can't find it.

 

[lilaclomax]

I do like the idea of sheep, large water troughs and shelters for them plus if you can borrow a caravan to store things in on the corner nearest to your neighbours house... they will soon get the idea that rustic jumps are actually quite pleasant to look at

 

[juliette]

I do like the idea of sheep, large water troughs and shelters for them plus if you can borrow a caravan to store things in on the corner nearest to your neighbours house... they will soon get the idea that rustic jumps are actually quite pleasant to look at

or you could go the whole hog and get a horrible brightly coloured old lorry body for storage and put it right in front of their view!

 

[POLLDARK]

It is very sad that there are so many kill joys & jobsworthys out there when you are doing no harm on your own land. I despair & feel very old sometimes. !! It's the old chestnut ie' not like that when I was a girl.'

 

[MissMincePie&Brandy]

It's a bloody stupid rule. Arrest me now for riding around my parents farm
When I was a teenager, we converted some areas of the fencing between the fields around my dads farm into x-country jumps. I suppose that was illegal too?

In fact we hosted pony club rallies and shows in some of his fields on occasion. However we are going back a couple of decades ago, when there was less red tape, bureaucracy and H&S craziness in the world.

Yes very sure i can not ride in the feild or put jumps up or even one trotting pole unless i have permissoin

i have rented a farm for 30 years and we have towny's move in next door built a huge ******* **f house and now doing every thhing to get rid of us

I would be tempted to get some pigs and have them and their muck heap, sited next to his boundary! Seriously though, there is legal recognition that if you have been using land for a certain purpose for 7 years or more then you are very unlikely to be forced to stop. It might be that you still need a change of use, but as long as you state that you've been riding in it regularly for more than 7 years, it will be hard for the council to deny you this.

 

[Carefreegirl]

Probably just an over zealous concil bod trying to justify keeping their job. We looked at buying some land a few years back but a neighbour complained as we wanted to put up 2 mobile shelters (on skids). We got our own back by inviting the council planner to come and look at the land and the neighbours nice new swimming pool - built without permission. He's got a lovely lawn there now instead. Karma big time.

 

[EAST KENT]

I can thoroughly recommend you get a donkey,a couple of pigs..keep them a tad hungry for the best "opera" ..and if you want some cockerels for a 3AM wake up call I have several to spare. We have a neighbour like that..did`nt like to see our dogs playing in their paddocks..MOVE then.Later on I found her feeding bowls of acorns (innocently) to my horses! Idiot woman. Strangely my peacocks /cockerels don`t worry her..oh and her bungalow is a third of a mile away at the end of my fields.

 

[sychnant]

Probably just an over zealous concil bod trying to justify keeping their job. We looked at buying some land a few years back but a neighbour complained as we wanted to put up 2 mobile shelters (on skids). We got our own back by inviting the council planner to come and look at the land and the neighbours nice new swimming pool - built without permission. He's got a lovely lawn there now instead. Karma big time.

LOL

Fabulous

 

[Frozen Hoof Boots]

We owned a property with 3 acres with an agricultural restriction on it. After the 10th anniversary of living there we applied for a non-compliance to the restriction and that we were using it for equestrian activities. The restriction was approved to be removed.

As you've been there 30 years I would suggest your speak to a solicitor who specialises in planning/agricultural (as we did) to investigate options as you could be allowed also to apply for non compliance and is merely a paperwork exercise. Could be £25 well spent for a bit of advice to put your mind at ease and be more informed.

Seriously the townie with his new build need to be kept an eye on and I would object to every change they make to that property... see if he complies with building regs and planning....

I would also get Farmer Giles to spread ALOT of his bestest quality stinking muck along the perimeter of the boundary on a weekly basis of 'mr new build' and see how he likes it being used for 'agricultural purposes' vs you riding your horse occasionally

Good luck!

 

[unicornleather]

We owned a property with 3 acres with an agricultural restriction on it. After the 10th anniversary of living there we applied for a non-compliance to the restriction and that we were using it for equestrian activities. The restriction was approved to be removed.

As you've been there 30 years I would suggest your speak to a solicitor who specialises in planning/agricultural (as we did) to investigate options as you could be allowed also to apply for non compliance and is merely a paperwork exercise. Could be £25 well spent for a bit of advice to put your mind at ease and be more informed.

Seriously the townie with his new build need to be kept an eye on and I would object to every change they make to that property... see if he complies with building regs and planning....

I would also get Farmer Giles to spread ALOT of his bestest quality stinking muck along the perimeter of the boundary on a weekly basis of 'mr new build' and see how he likes it being used for 'agricultural purposes' vs you riding your horse occasionally

Good luck!

lol, very good ideas!
Oz

 

[Enfys]

Yes very sure i can not ride in the feild or put jumps up or even one trotting pole unless i have permissoin

Dear God!

 

[MiJodsR2BlinkinTite]

This is Britain; you couldn't make it up LOL

If you wanna really p!ss off your townie neighbours big time, then why not get some piggies? Lovely smelly things.

 

[xapplex]

funny that we have four pigs coming saturday morning and they are going not to far from his huge build (kitchen window)

 

[HappyHorses:)]

I would be tempted to get some pigs and have them and their muck heap, sited next to his boundary!

^ This^

Stink him out!

 

[showqa]

This really makes me sick. Why don't people just go and get a life! You know, one of my local farmers has ended up in a costly dispute because a townie has moved into a local cottage and complains that he moves his cows accross a path to new grazing, and the cows shXX on the path whcih draws flies. The poor farmer has had to hire a barrister!

Surely even a non - horsy type should delight in watching a horse and rider working from their window. People.

 

[HappyHorses:)]

This really makes me sick. Why don't people just go and get a life! You know, one of my local farmers has ended up in a costly dispute because a townie has moved into a local cottage and complains that he moves his cows accross a path to new grazing, and the cows shXX on the path whcih draws flies. The poor farmer has had to hire a barrister!

Surely even a non - horsy type should delight in watching a horse and rider working from their window. People.

I'd be setting up a trip wire with a big pile of cow pat on the other side for that plum.

 

[MiJodsR2BlinkinTite]

OR (another idea) - if you're on high'ish ground - could you apply for some wind turbines? To spoil his lovely view and the noise might annoy him?

Its the "thing to do" innit? Renewable energy and all that, OR you could be daring and apply for a Bio-Mass set-up on your place?

 

[YorksG]

Does the owner of the new house have a garden? How much of his garden was agricultural land prior to him turning into garden? Did he have permission to turn it into garden, or just get the permission to build the house, may be worth a look at the original plans. If he hasn't got it exactly right, it may be worth 'discussing' the tit for tat complaint idea