Please define a.... eek.. cob..

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can we please have some definitons of a cob please?

ok so I know welsh cob.. so will eliminate them..

but I see so many people saying my cob.. or adverts that say cob. but to me they are either..

A) well built horses
b)fatties that by losing a bit would look like your average neddie.

please some one either set me straight, of give me a true definition..

thankies!
 
noooooooooooooooooo str.. stop! mines really just a hairy sports horse! (that has shrunk)

I find it confusing as to what other people say is a cob.. Ellie had 9 inches of bone.. but she was no cob.. yet if id fattened her up she may of passed as one in others peoples eyes.. if you see what i meen.
 
I think the most common misuse of the word cob is when its used to describe a clearly overweight pony/horse!

To me, my idea of a cob is one that is gentle and placid in nature, heavy boned with big feet, lots of feather and thick mane and tail, cold blooded and hardy.

My coloured in my sig is an irish cob - he's definitely a proper cob.
and I've my Welsh section D who I also consider a cob, but I know many dont think they are true cobs as they aren't as heavy, but I think the clue is in their name :D

I think if a horse can even pass as a cob, people will call it a cob when selling as its the one type of horse there is still a market for at present x
 
In my opinion, a cob is short backed, stocky limbed with short cannons, should be able to turn their hoof to anything and carry most weights. There are so many different types of cob that people often disagree. I know many people who say welsh cobs aren't cobs :rolleyes: But just because you know their breeding doesn't make them any less of a cob! There are traditional types (the hairys), show cobs, welsh cobs and the rest. They're all different but when you put them in a category they should all be good weight carriers with stocky limbs and compact bodies.

In my opinion :)
 
xRobyn said:
In my opinion, a cob is short backed, stocky limbed with short cannons, should be able to turn their hoof to anything and carry most weights. There are so many different types of cob that people often disagree. I know many people who say welsh cobs aren't cobs :rolleyes: But just because you know their breeding doesn't make them any less of a cob! There are traditional types (the hairys), show cobs, welsh cobs and the rest. They're all different but when you put them in a category they should all be good weight carriers with stocky limbs and compact bodies.

In my opinion :)
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Pretty much agree with this.

Also find they're still selling pretty well. But what's changed is that people expect better schooled cobs now, whereas a few years ago you could make a fortune selling rubbish, naughty cob to novices for big money (not me! I like my performance neddies!)
 
missyme10 said:
I think the most common misuse of the word cob is when its used to describe a clearly overweight pony/horse!

To me, my idea of a cob is one that is gentle and placid in nature, heavy boned with big feet, lots of feather and thick mane and tail, cold blooded and hardy.

My coloured in my sig is an irish cob - he's definitely a proper cob.
and I've my Welsh section D who I also consider a cob, but I know many dont think they are true cobs as they aren't as heavy, but I think the clue is in their name :D

I think if a horse can even pass as a cob, people will call it a cob when selling as its the one type of horse there is still a market for at present x
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This is a good description but it would include Fany and she most definitely is a draft, she is an Ardennes (Trait Ardennais) rather than a cob.

I think that your last sentence is spot on. They really are the horse a lot of people are after. Fany was described as a heavy cob rather than an Ardennes, I knew as soon as I saw her piccy what she was, but the seller said she got more calls for cobs. She certainly had a lot of calls about Fany.

I think that if you get a good cob you have a real all round horse which will turn its hoof to anything. Which Fany will not do, she has trained, all be it reluctantly, for a dressage comp. But does not jump and will probably never. However she was bought as a bombproof hack and she most certainly is that.

FDC

PS anyone interested I would happily recommend the dealer I bought her off. She is in Yorkshire not far from York. PM me if you want her address.
 
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From BSPA incase anyone couldn't be bothered opening the link ;):

This is the definition of a traditional cob:

Between 12.2hh and 15hh (for a pony) 15hh - 15.3hh (for a horse)
Usually of cold blood origin that does not have any Thoroughbred, Continental or Arab blood within their first and second generation sire and dam lines.
A workmanlike head, which must be honest in appearance, a bold eye, and the head must be in proportion to the body.
The neck should be well set on with a definite crest. A sloping shoulder, where an upright shoulder will lead to a short action.
The body should be square i.e. you can put a box around it and the back should be short and the ribs well sprung.
The quarters round and peachy and the tail well set on.
Short cannon bones, which should be sufficient to support their short compact bodies. Good flat knees. Hocks clean and no signs of coarseness.
This should be a powerful looking animal.
The feet should be open and proportionate to the size of the animal.
The animal should not be leggy in appearance.
The action is often rounded but should not be an excuse for dishing or even worse a turned in action.

The animal should always display characteristics of its origins, being able to pull London trolley carts.
Temperament should be calm quiet and intelligent.
To be shown in an untrimmed state with feathering descending over the coronet band and hoof often covering it completely.
Feather should descend from behind the knee and hock and be thick and profuse.
 
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xRobyn said:
In my opinion, a cob is short backed, stocky limbed with short cannons, should be able to turn their hoof to anything and carry most weights. There are so many different types of cob that people often disagree. I know many people who say welsh cobs aren't cobs :rolleyes: But just because you know their breeding doesn't make them any less of a cob! There are traditional types (the hairys), show cobs, welsh cobs and the rest. They're all different but when you put them in a category they should all be good weight carriers with stocky limbs and compact bodies.

In my opinion :)
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Agree with above. My lads are cobs 100%! Stocky short backed, no manners, turn their hooves to most things, great fun, take the micky, class clowns and generally just quiet nice people to be around.
 
vanner, I totally agree on what a cob should be, but I guess now having one has opened my eyes a bit, When I was on the hunt there was a lot of advertised "cobs" that i looked at .. really looking at the actual amount of bone and though if that wasnt a fat blob it wouldnt actully be a cob!

fatten it up, hog it, clip legs and hey ho you have a cob, then you have the people that just have a nice stocky horse and call it a cob. Maybe im to old fashioned in my thoughts!
 
Welll....... if you're stuck for a definition I guess you could think what "Bonkers" (!!!!!) :) looks like and go from there!

Big @arse for a start, good bone, smallish (even dainty with some cobs) head; pony brain & blokey attitude! A good workmanlike sort of horse I guess rather than anything too light.

If you think it would look better pulling a cart - then its definately a cob!!
 
MiJodsR2BlinkinTite said:
Welll....... if you're stuck for a definition I guess you could think what "Bonkers" (!!!!!) :) looks like and go from there!

Big @arse for a start, good bone, smallish (even dainty with some cobs) head; pony brain & blokey attitude! A good workmanlike sort of horse I guess rather than anything too light.

If you think it would look better pulling a cart - then its definately a cob!!
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one could never take away the staus of cob form your boy!!! LOL have you seen the pics of my new lad?
 
I know the feeling Madeline!!

My new horse has been met with the reaction by most people "oh I never thought you'd buy a cob!"

It's just because she's coloured and a big girl.... but to me she's not what I'd call a cob. She has no feather.... at all and I just don't think she has the bone and substance of a cob. I'm sure if I tried to show her (at a proper show) as a cob I'd be laughed out of the ring!!

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She's actually a passported ISH and now I've got some weight off her, her barrel isn't so huge. I don't know!! ha ha!
 
cobgirlie said:
Agree with above. My lads are cobs 100%! Stocky short backed, no manners, turn their hooves to most things, great fun, take the micky, class clowns and generally just quiet nice people to be around.
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Agree totally cobgirlie. Mine is just the nicest person to be around, but to handle he is a right git, having been made aware of his (considerable) strength by bad handling before I owned him. He is intelligent, funny, and a when you are on board, a total gent.
 
if you're talking about mine (he he! Madeline's is cute too!) thank you very much!

I am thinking about trying her in the "non traditional" coloureds. She does move nicely. But coming from Ireland this summer, she needs to learn how to go around corners first!! ha ha!
 
you might not want to steal her lol she is a bit marish but you may be as nutty as me and love her anyway. her passport says sport horse, but that means nothing as far as my research goes. i compete her in riding horse show classes and coloured classes quite well so far fingers crossed

heres some pics of her for you if you cant see my siggy

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galaxy i can see why you get the same as i do. i can see cobby characteristics in both ours but i think they are far from being cobs. mines to tall for a start at 16hh
 
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I'd say yours is finer than mine!! Can't think why they'd call yours a cob!! I do call mine big bird... But my opinion is she's just a big horse like jhoward was talking about earlier....

Jaffa's 15.3hh. Maybe if I fed her up to being a wobbly piece of lard she could do a cob class!!! (ha ha, I think not!)
 
I think Hugo fits all definitions of a cob - except the feathers! He is advertised as a cob and I believe that's what on his papers (not got them until after he passes his vetting - fingers crossed - on Friday!!). Does he qualify, do you think?
 
This is one of my Cobs?
Ive heard them described as face of an angel, arse of a cook!! lol
The angelic face can hide a multitude. His dinner plate feet are terrifying when you have frozen toes.

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This is the other one
 
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Creature has 9.5 inch of bone and plenty of feather and came first in the cob class at Patchetts' big show in March, so I'm guessing he's a proper cob!

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As for them being 'so 2008' oh puuuuhlease! Either you like them or not. I did not go out and buy a cob because it was trendy (when I bought him in 2008!:rolleyes:)

A friend has a maxi-cob who is over 17hh: she is still a cob despite being a very tall girl.
 
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