RubyR
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Hi. Just looking to see if anyone owns pointers on the forum. I'm thinking of English Pointers rather than the German pointers but I'd love to hear your experiences of both and any photos would be great.
Pointers - Does anyone own one?
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Cop-Pop
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My YO has one - she has the smaller one but I can't remeber if she's English or German
She's a fab dog - mad as pants but so friendly and brilliant with people
I don't think I've ever seen her tired though....
Ravenwood
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I have read a lot about English pointers and HPR's in general and how they work them in a brace - fascinating stuff. It seems that one backs up the other.
The GSP's and wire haireds have certainly become much more popular around here. Infact the shoot owner has a wired haired and now it has matured a bit, it has become a really useful dog. Very affectionate and nice looking dog.
Would be great to have an HPR if you were into rough shooting.
The GSP's and wire haireds have certainly become much more popular around here. Infact the shoot owner has a wired haired and now it has matured a bit, it has become a really useful dog. Very affectionate and nice looking dog.
Would be great to have an HPR if you were into rough shooting.
CAYLA
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I have a German Wire Haired dog, as Ravenwood suggests, he is very affectionate, very clever boy, but needs lots of exercise, he runs for miles, when we are out walking, they really thrive on their exercise...he was a rescue, I got him, at 12 months old, he is now 2, he can be a little temprememntal due to mistreatment and ignorance, hence why I kept him, I will post some piccies, when im at home, as im at work at the mo.
Also Ann-Jen, on here has one, im sure she is an English pointer, she was also from my mams rescue, and very young when she came in.......I know Anne-Jen, has had some fun times with her
I will let her explain, if she sees the post, she is a lovely looking girlie though.
Also Ann-Jen, on here has one, im sure she is an English pointer, she was also from my mams rescue, and very young when she came in.......I know Anne-Jen, has had some fun times with her
ann-jen
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Yes this is Daisy at alongside my Vizsla Josh.
On the move...
Pretty girl
Like Cala said I got Daisy from her Mum's rescue a few years ago now. We guessed she was about 9 months old at the time. She was (and still is) very sweet natured although initially quite timid and hadn't really been socialised with other dogs - she is still a little uncertain with other dogs and tends to hang back when she meets them and then if they want to play she generally lets Josh get on with it and just leaps around on the periphery.
I would say German Pointers have more similar personalities to Vizslas (which I think you have had RubyR unless I'm muddling you up with another poster) whereas English Pointers are a generally quieter dog - in the house you wouldn't know she was there sometimes and she's definitely a lot less vocal than the Vizsla and not so "full on" if you know what I mean. Out walking though they need tonnes of exercise - if I'm honest more than the Vizsla if thats possible. Daisy is as fast as lightening and loves to run. She also has extremely well developed hunting instincts - I think as a purpose bred breed as opposed to a jack of all trades like a Vizsla or other HPRs this is to be expected but if she gets one whiff of a pheasant then she's off and nothing else can get through to her. So when I first got her drumming in a recall took a VERY long time and she often disappeared on hunting jaunts that could last for hours leaving me biting my knuckles imagining her squished by a bus on a road somewhere. I've found the best tool for training her for a recall has been a whistle - its so high pitched that the noise still filters into her bird addicted brain and so she does come back even when she's on one of her missions.
So in all I would say a loving, submissive, gentle dog that needs a lot of exercise and quite a lot of training initially.
The only other person on here I can think of who has an EP is Jetset who might be able to give you a similar or different perspective.
On the move...
Pretty girl
Like Cala said I got Daisy from her Mum's rescue a few years ago now. We guessed she was about 9 months old at the time. She was (and still is) very sweet natured although initially quite timid and hadn't really been socialised with other dogs - she is still a little uncertain with other dogs and tends to hang back when she meets them and then if they want to play she generally lets Josh get on with it and just leaps around on the periphery.
I would say German Pointers have more similar personalities to Vizslas (which I think you have had RubyR unless I'm muddling you up with another poster) whereas English Pointers are a generally quieter dog - in the house you wouldn't know she was there sometimes and she's definitely a lot less vocal than the Vizsla and not so "full on" if you know what I mean. Out walking though they need tonnes of exercise - if I'm honest more than the Vizsla if thats possible. Daisy is as fast as lightening and loves to run. She also has extremely well developed hunting instincts - I think as a purpose bred breed as opposed to a jack of all trades like a Vizsla or other HPRs this is to be expected but if she gets one whiff of a pheasant then she's off and nothing else can get through to her. So when I first got her drumming in a recall took a VERY long time and she often disappeared on hunting jaunts that could last for hours leaving me biting my knuckles imagining her squished by a bus on a road somewhere. I've found the best tool for training her for a recall has been a whistle - its so high pitched that the noise still filters into her bird addicted brain and so she does come back even when she's on one of her missions.
So in all I would say a loving, submissive, gentle dog that needs a lot of exercise and quite a lot of training initially.
The only other person on here I can think of who has an EP is Jetset who might be able to give you a similar or different perspective.
CAYLA
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This is Buddy, doing what he does best, running :grin.......we hardly have any iccies, of him out, as he ignores the pack, as prefers to hunt than play.
In hunting mode again
Hopefull, of some left overs
In his favourite spot, plonking his ass, on the stairs, for a better view
Thats Buddy!
Looking rather sheepish, with the teddy bear
He really is, a lovely lad, but like I said, craves his exercise, we don't have any problems with his recall, but we did when we first got hi, he would just naff off for hours
quirky
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I have 2 German Shorthaired Pointers that are 7 yrs old.
They are extremely intelligent and loving animals.
I have 2 young children and they are brilliant with them. They can be a little unruly when on walks if they get a scent of something. They tend to throw a deaf one and refuse to come back. We took them to a specialist gun dog trainer for one to one tuition as opposed to local puppy training classes and it made a masive difference to them.
We nickname them bouncy and twirly because that is exactly what they do whenever they see us!!
Here are some pics of them ...
They are extremely intelligent and loving animals.
I have 2 young children and they are brilliant with them. They can be a little unruly when on walks if they get a scent of something. They tend to throw a deaf one and refuse to come back. We took them to a specialist gun dog trainer for one to one tuition as opposed to local puppy training classes and it made a masive difference to them.
We nickname them bouncy and twirly because that is exactly what they do whenever they see us!!
Here are some pics of them ...
RubyR
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Ann-jen. Well remembered - I do have a Vizsla and she is great. I obviously like the HPR breeds, which has led me to look at the pointers. Its interesting to hear you find your pointer needs more exercise than a Vizsla!!! I must say, both your dogs are gorgeous and I love all the German pointer photos as well.
I think, like most Vizslas, my girl has very good recall so I'd be more worried about perhaps the stronger instincts of the English pointer. This has given me something to think about and lovely photos to look at!!
I think, like most Vizslas, my girl has very good recall so I'd be more worried about perhaps the stronger instincts of the English pointer. This has given me something to think about and lovely photos to look at!!
ann-jen
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I've always wondered if things would have been different if I'd had Daisy from being a pup and she'd had more basic training early on. When I got her she wasn't even really house trained and the only command she really knew was "no" which is a bit sad. She now thinks she's the cleverest dog in the world because she's mastered "sit" and "come". However my riding instructor used to have an English Pointer too and she said hers used to go on hunting expeditions too so I think its not just Daisy. Like you say vizslas are quite trainable and Josh is very attached to me so it makes him want to please. Daisy is an odd combination of being quite independant some of the time and very clingy at others but I think this stems from her insecurities as a rescue dog than from being a Pointer. She was quite scared of me when I first took her home so that didn't really give her much incentive to come back to me when I called her! She's not even very food orientated so I couldn't even use bribery as a tool for a recall. I tried all sorts of methods to improve her recall - some worked for a while and some not at all but basically she only improved when our relationship improved and she started to trust me more. I'd say her recall is now about 80% reliable but she still has her moments!
Dizzykizzy
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Drools at the lovely photos.
I so love that one of Buddy sitting on the stairs!
Another Wiry fan here, we have 2 bitches, mother and daughter and wouldn't want any other breed though they do take a lot of tiring out!
I so love that one of Buddy sitting on the stairs!
Another Wiry fan here, we have 2 bitches, mother and daughter and wouldn't want any other breed though they do take a lot of tiring out!
Bossdog
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I had a pointer lurcher a few years ago (g/hound x pointer)... he was an absolute nutter, he was a gypsys courser dog that I got from a shabby rescue centre and he was a complete nightmare for the 18 months I had him. He would run off at every single opportunity, he drove my GSD demented (wouldn't leave him alone 24/7), he wee'd all over the kitchen, he tried to rag a Cavalier once (I cried all day after that), he bit my father in law so bad he needed stitches. He was very aggressive when asked to do something (getting off couch, I don't have dogs on the furniture). He made me cry at least once a week and I tried and tried and tried with him but nothing could get through to him. After he bit my father in law, I decided I'd had enough, I was 6 months pregnant and could never have trusted him with any child. I drove all the way down to Wood Green in Cambs... they spent months trying to work with him but in the end they rang and said that he was a lost cause and wanted to check with me before they PTS. I have no idea why he was like he was and even today I feel so sad that I couldn't do anything for him, I just wish I could have reasoned with him. I exercised him till my legs nearly fell off and tried giving him all sorts of challenges but he never ran out of energy, he just wanted to run and run and run. I have no experience with any other lurchers or pointers so I'm not generalising but he has put me off both. Sorry for the essay but thinking about him has brought back so many memories..... I did love him and I was devatstaed at giving him up.