Ponies' first week at home: some thoughts sought! Access questions, too.

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My pony and his new friend (a little mare on loan) moved into their new field a week ago. It's my first time having ponies at home, and I've a few questions on how to find out some things!

Hay has been sourced and stored, and after finding myself standing there a little confused with a brand-new wheelbarrow full of poos :confused: , a muck-heap has also been started: yay! :D However:

1. I need to find someone to remove said muck heap at regular intervals. What's the done thing? I was thinking of simply driving up to the cattle farmer up the road, and asking if he knows anyone who would do that. Maybe he would do it himself?

2. There are several possible off-road routes to the best hacking. Bearing in mind that this is SCOTLAND and that the access laws are different, what should I do?

a) along edges of a few fields: how do I find out to whom they belong, to ask for permission (which I technically don't need)? I am told the fields concerned have been zoned/planned for housing in the future, but they are currently either fallow or planted.

b) the OS map shows a path through a derelict farm (also part of the housing-zoned area). I've found the entrance to this path, but there's a gate with a fierce "construction area---keep out" sign at the bottom. I could probably get around the edge of this gate, which I'm told local walkers do, but would prefer to find out about getting permission. There is no construction there at the moment, or likely to be for quite a while yet, and if the path is on the OS, can the development company even legally block access? Again, Scotland.

3. At the moment, the pony is still a bit unsettled, and gets rather vocal and dancey when removed from the field without his new girlfriend. I think he just needs a bit more time (he was at the old yard for 4 years), but am thinking that I should simply make sure he comes out daily for slightly increasing periods, and that I shouldn't stress about hurrying him into serious riding for a few weeks yet (he's very fit at the moment, and has lost a little condition this past week. That is, he looks more like a normal pony, and less like a swallower of Shetlands). I'd also prefer to have company when riding for the first while, just in case I do get dumped. Am I being chicken, or suffering from a rare attack of common sense?

4. Next Sunday, he's entered for his last endurance ride of the season, a 34km CTR about 1.5h drive away. Although there are arguments for withdrawing (viz. 3.), there are also arguments for returning to normality regarding competition trips as soon as possible, and I'm still undecided. I've thought of drafting a horsey friend to babysit girlfriendmare for the day, to be sure she's ok (which she has the reputation of being, but still!). Does this sound like a silly plan?

Any ideas appreciated! :)
 
I'd ask your farmer neighbour all the questions apart from the endurance one which I would say I'd go to as I'd keep things normal. I've never agreed with making a deal about something that has changed. Kid him on it's all the same and he will be fine :)
 
I have to agree with FW. Your farmer neighbour will know all about the access locally. He may well offer to clear your muckheap or know someone else who could provide this service.
As for the Endurance ride, i think you will have to make the decision based on your knowledge of the pony - will he settle down into a familiar activity? Or will he get stressed because he has left his new friend at home?
 
Try to get your farmer onside - although technically, we have access, in reality, noise up the neighbouring farmers and life can become pretty unpleasant pretty quickly.

If you go in with a "I know I'm allowed but I thought I'd have the common courtesy to come and ask you first" you will probably have a slightly better chance of success ;)
 
I'd ask your farmer neighbour all the questions apart from the endurance one which I would say I'd go to as I'd keep things normal. I've never agreed with making a deal about something that has changed. Kid him on it's all the same and he will be fine :)

Cheers, that's my current thinking. However, the fields around which I hope to ride are not that close to the farmer in question, and nobody seems to know who currently owns them...How do I find that out? Other fields are farmed by someone who comes in from outside the area. I'll also need to find out who that is, and how to contact him! :confused:

As for the Endurance ride, i think you will have to make the decision based on your knowledge of the pony - will he settle down into a familiar activity? Or will he get stressed because he has left his new friend at home?

That's a bit of an unknown. He took to his week-long Irish expedition very well this summer, so there's some hope that he'll be ok. A very experienced competitor has suggested that he'll probably regard the Endurance outing.as "business as usual", and might actually settle a bit because of it.

Try to get your farmer onside - although technically, we have access, in reality, noise up the neighbouring farmers and life can become pretty unpleasant pretty quickly.

If you go in with a "I know I'm allowed but I thought I'd have the common courtesy to come and ask you first" you will probably have a slightly better chance of success ;)

Cheers, that's what I was thinking! I'll go on exploratory missions...what is a good time of day/week for randomly dropping in on a farmer?
 
If you have your own land, presumably you have a tractor - so why not think about purchasing a muck spreader so that you can spread your muck in the spring to fertlise the fields?
 
If you have your own land, presumably you have a tractor - so why not think about purchasing a muck spreader so that you can spread your muck in the spring to fertlise the fields?

I have only a very small bit of land (2 little fields), so don't own a tractor at this point (only just moved in!). I suspect that the muck/field ratio would also be a little bit off! But it's a thought to ask the farmer, as well!
 
I have only a very small bit of land (2 little fields), so don't own a tractor at this point (only just moved in!). I suspect that the muck/field ratio would also be a little bit off! But it's a thought to ask the farmer, as well!

If you have a landrover-y type vehicle then some of the vintage old muck spreaders are whats called drive/wheel driven ie the mechanics are operatedd just by them being towed along the field so they can be towed by 4x4, they dont need a tractor. We recently bought one, although ours needs some restoration before we can use it. Worth considering as they are also a lot cheaper. ebay a good place. But probably cheaper IF you can find someone to do it for you is to get them to do it!

Access wise (also in Scotland) I stick to farm tracks unless there is some obstruction then I will use a farm verge. You cant ride across standing crops (which includes hay crop grass higher than ankle height, or stubble if its undersown with another crop). Agree with the posters above, good to check with farmer where best to ride. Fields can have gates locked by farmer as they arent tracks, theres only a right to ride across agric fields you can get into in practice, so best to get them on side. Esp as you are new to the area and want them to take your muck away (horse muck doesnt have very much value in terms of PKK nutrients they are after so you might have to pay)

The as yet silent construction site with path through you would be fine with using, any paths if usable by walkers horse riders can also use if they can fit down them! Once construction starts they might be able to exclude from actual building site on H&S grounds but would have to provide a diversion normally (which they can choose the route of as its not like Englands rights of way which are on defined exact routes)

I would do the endurance ride - you can always get there and scratch if you arent happy with how he is. And your plan re riding sounds sensible (NB one extra thought, when I first came here I would walk my girl in hand on the outward leg of the new strange hacks and then ride her back so she only had to deal with the 'going home' part of it, that seemed to work well)
 
If you have your own land, presumably you have a tractor - so why not think about purchasing a muck spreader so that you can spread your muck in the spring to fertlise the fields?

Sorry Lol at this, we have 12 acres, family owned for 25 years, and we have never had a tractor :D
 
lachlanandmarcus, good thoughts on the 4x4...I strongly suspect my car is not going to make it much longer, so that would be a possibility to consider for the replacement. I'll try to find out about the construction site, since it seems a shame not to use that path.

The pony seemed much more chilled this morning: I just walked him over some poles in hand in the second field (which is out of sight of the first), and he took it calmly and managed to snatch some of the marsh grasses that grow there. There were two small whinnies from Newgirlfriendmare, and none from him, and she was grazing when I took him back to the field. Let's hope this calmness is a trend!
 
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